I'm thinking of buying a Frontier...

[Jer]

I totally understand you having a Silverado 2500HD... My main thing, I don't have a use for a full-size, so why even go there? That's more than I need, and more than I'm looking for. When it comes to mid-size, I'm really not wowed by the domestic variety any more... That's one thing the Japs do better than us, but we still have better full-size (I'd take a Ram or Chevy over the Titan or Tundra any day).

I disagree about full size trucks completely unless you need a 1-ton diesel for towing. My buddy is a farmer in Nebraska where they use pick-up trucks for the purposes they were designed. They have a couple dozen pick-ups ranging from 1/4-ton windows & keys models to $65k GMC/Ford diesels and they put them all to work. After years of trying to convince him to try one Tundra in his line-up he finally caved and got one. Day one he had a 10,000lb water trailer on it and called me to brag about how amazing it was compared to his other trucks. He's had it almost a year now and has 50k hard miles on it and it's held up WAY better than any of his domestic trucks. He had two Raptors that pretty much went to shit in half the miles as this one. I know this thread isn't about full-size trucks so I won't get into detail but I'll just say that the domestic manufacturers really need to get on their horse because they're behind and surviving on their name at this point. They're starting to come around a little but have already lost lots of market share to foreign interests in a segment that they owned since they created it but you can only shove shit down your consumer's throats before they find take their loyalties elsewhere.

Speaking of that, I know of a Double Cab 2010 Tacoma sport (scooped hood & color keyed bumpers, mirrors & handles) w/39k miles with a 3" lift & topper up here that a buddy's dealership (he's also a member here) just took in on trade that will be going for less than $30k (maybe by a grand or two) last I heard. It's MGM which is a darker gray color that is an awesome color in person. Sounds like it's a pretty nice truck.

[Jer]

If you just want a spacer lift for a Frontier, All Day Fab has a spacer kit for $150ish if I remember correctly. The aftermarket support isn't nearly as great as it is for the Tacoma but it's not bad.

Don't do spacers or blocks to lift man. Spend a few hundred more and do it right or just leave it stock right height. WAY too many horror stories from people who did them regarding unsafe handling, wrecking existing suspension components or both. If I bought a truck with spacers /blocks I'd drive it home immediately and remove them. Whatever you buy, don't do spacers or blocks.

BTW, you can get a set of Bilstein 5100's for the Tacoma that allow you three different height settings (0.75", 1.5" or 2.25") for less than $200 and the ride is as good or better than the factory offroad Bilstein struts. On my truck I have mine set at the middle setting with the TSB rear leafs (OEM add-a-leaf you can have done for free if you request it) for a slightly more aggressive stance and look. It's not what I would consider even lifted compared to most Tacomas that do suspension and I still think it looks pretty good...

[blacklabel]

Don't do spacers or blocks to lift man. Spend a few hundred more and do it right or just leave it stock right height. WAY too many horror stories from people who did them regarding unsafe handling, wrecking existing suspension components or both. If I bought a truck with spacers /blocks I'd drive it home immediately and remove them. Whatever you buy, don't do spacers or blocks.

They're perfectly fine if you don't plan on going offroad and just want the look within reason. Anything over 2.5" in the front on a Frontier and you start running into problems.

[Ronin13]

They're perfectly fine if you don't plan on going offroad and just want the look within reason. Anything over 2.5" in the front on a Frontier and you start running into problems.

I don't go for looks, I go for function, and I wouldn't go over 2.5" anyway, don't need to roll the beast.

On the buying new, I'm not sure I can afford that big of a monthly payment, but I've heard financing on new is usually easier to come by.

On a related note (well fuel economy), are tonneau covers worth it? One of my redneck buddies says "Tonneau cover? Just pop the gate off, bam! Just saved you $300!" LOL

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[DavieD55]

Before you dive into a Frontier go take a Taco for a test drive, that is if you haven't tried one out yet.

[blacklabel]

On a related note (well fuel economy), are tonneau covers worth it? One of my redneck buddies says "Tonneau cover? Just pop the gate off, bam! Just saved you $300!" LOL

I didn't have mine on long enough to get a decent baseline but I do seem to get better mileage than most Frontier owners but I also drive like a grandpa. I picked one up used for $200 that can't be opened unless the tailgate is down so I can lock the tailgate and have a little piece of mind that someone won't come by and won't pulling something out of the bed of my truck.

[Bailey Guns]

Light Truck Market Share Jan 2014 vs Jan 2013

Chevy/GMC declined by 5%. (just over 33% of US market share in Jan 2014)

Ford up 1% (over 38% of market share in Jan 2014)

Ram up 4.3% (about 21% of market share in Jan 2014)

Toyota up .9% (only holds about 6.5% of the light truck market in the USA)

Nissan down by .4% (less than 1% of the light truck market in the USA)

GM most likely lost market share because GM didn't provide the dramatic sales incentives that Ford and Ram did and focused on higher profitability. The average transaction for GM was about $40,000 as compared to about $33,000 for Ford. Ford increased incentive spending by about 24% to GM's 4%.

Bottom line...Toyota and Nissan have a long way to go to catch up to the big boys in the light truck market.

[Jer]

Yeah, a majority of the people owned iPhones too. That didn't make them the best option. I don't base my decisions on market share #'s.

[ColoWyo]

Hey Ronin. Check out the Ehrlich prices in Greely. They are taking over $5000 off MSRP. I've been looking for a Xterra.

http://www.clickonnissan.com/new-inv...elections=true

[blacklabel]

Yeah, a majority of the people owned iPhones too. That didn't make them the best option. I don't base my decisions on market share #'s.

I drove a brand new F-150 for a week and while I liked it, I wouldn't buy one over my Frontier.