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    Default Help me debunk these anti gun arguments

    http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...ths-fact-check

    #4. I know a CCW guy stopped the Oregon mall shooting, so there is one.

    Need some help with the others though.

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    That's about where I'm at Dave. I'm done arguing with people that will never understand the concept of a natural right. I'm not going to waste my time attempting to change someone's mind when they don't respect my rights in the first place.

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    Myth #6 - the recent CDC report to the President showed that armed resistance gives a better chance of survival than no resistance.

    Myth #9 - while the percentage of household with guns has gone down, the total number of households has increased. The total number of households with guns is relatively stable.

    Just read the responses underneath the story.
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    Arapahoe High School shooter offed himself after being cornered by a lawman.

    The Christmas Eve church shooting in CO Springs a few years back was stopped by an armed guard. As was the shooting a couple days after Century 16 in a church in Aurora.

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    Use their own stats against them:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/Re...ndgun-Ban.aspx

    October 26, 2011
    Record-Low 26% in U.S. Favor Handgun Ban

    Support for stricter gun laws in general is lowest Gallup has measured

    by Jeffrey M. Jones


    PRINCETON, NJ -- A record-low 26% of Americans favor a legal ban on the possession of handguns in the United States other than by police and other authorized people. When Gallup first asked Americans this question in 1959, 60% favored banning handguns. But since 1975, the majority of Americans have opposed such a measure, with opposition around 70% in recent years.

    The results are based on Gallup's annual Crime poll, conducted Oct. 6-9. This year's poll finds support for a variety of gun-control measures at historical lows, including the ban on handguns, which is Gallup's longest continuing gun-control trend.
    For the first time, Gallup finds greater opposition to than support for a ban on semiautomatic guns or assault rifles, 53% to 43%. In the initial asking of this question in 1996, the numbers were nearly reversed, with 57% for and 42% against an assault rifle ban. Congress passed such a ban in 1994, but the law expired when Congress did not act to renew it in 2004. Around the time the law expired, Americans were about evenly divided in their views.

    Additionally, support for the broader concept of making gun laws "more strict" is at its lowest by one percentage point (43%). Forty-four percent prefer that gun laws be kept as they are now, while 11% favor less strict laws.
    As recently as 2007, a majority of Americans still favored stricter laws, which had been the dominant view since Gallup first asked the question in 1990.

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    They lie and bend the truth with their " fact check" already

    #1 yup the cops and feds are out gunned and we intend to keep it that way.

    #2 you mean that murderers use the tools they have available ?? wow big surprise there...

    #3 Disagree.. read more guns less crime for any stats you wish to counter this

    #4 see above... as well as showing full facts like the orgean mall.. the Ogden mall.. the Pearl MS school shooting... the list goes on and on .. ( love you they cite them selves as proof... also ER Shooting? has anyone here ever advocated carrying into the ER ? way to use some sort of bullshit stat to lie your way

    #5 is from the many times over debunked Kellerman study that even Kellerman won't stand behind anymore .

    #6 tho I can't read the study without signing up for something... I'm willing to bet the data is skewed by gang members/ drug dealers.

    #7 uses "studies" by the VPC which as an anti gun organization all of it's " studies" are suspect by nature.

    #8 Japan is an EXTREMELY different culture.

    #9 I guess I'm below average....

    #10 the 40% private sales number....

    that 40% is from criminals that got the gun from family/friends. no BGC law is going to affect this. they will still get the guns the same way .

    More "studies" by anti gun groups where the numbers are highly suspect.

    All Department Directors ( ATF FBI Homeland) must be approved by congress WTF does it matter if the NRA agrees with a long standing Federal law ?

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    #1 happening in California.. soon in couple States in the East Coast.

    #2 they are comparing gun ownership vs gun homicide. The real comparison should be gun ownership vs homicide in general. Homicide is at all time low as gun ownership is increasing. http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/mu...t-record-lows/

    The rest is so dumb LOL... 'owning gun increase risk of any kind of event involving gun' DOH! Owning knives increasing shit happens w/ knives too.
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    Here's my favorite debunk site, complete with government sources: http://www.gunfacts.info/
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    Not worth arguing emotion vs fact. But it you want a ton of good ammo (see what I did there) Becks book "Control" debunks almost every myth there is and as a bonus has notes with all the supporting documents so you don't have to quote GB.
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