Police Brutality is not just for blacks any more

[GunTroll]

I've been through one down in TX 12 years ago. Nothing new here. They just waved me through once they saw I was white and had no Hispanics in my car. I'm not saying I like it but it wasn't bad for me back then. They were definitely profiling back then.

[jackmode9316]

Ive passed through the checkpoint several times in San Diego. Im white though, so I didnt even come to a complete stop.

[ssf467]

Until someone comes up with a better idea, I'm all for it. If we didn't have the checkpoints, illegals would be running over us more than they are now. Open roads for the drug smugglers. Is that what you want?
I have nothing to hide anyways. Why would an average American citizen worry about a checkpoint that is not designed for them? I've crossed them many times. Owned a condo on South Padre for years and years. Never got searched even once.
Maybe it's just the cop in me speaking, but if you look guilty you probably are.

You're joking right? How about a secure boarder that doesn't violate the 4A?

[Tristan]

You must be joking. Why in the hell would I NOT be bothered by check points within the borders of the country?

lol. You always gotta argue with everybody, don't you?
You got a better place for them Mr. Smarty Pants?
Question remains the same. If you got nothing to hide, then why would it bother you? It's not infringing on your rights in any way. Or, like stated earlier, would you rather there be no checkpoints?
And since you don't seem to have a clue, do a Google map and you'll find out why they're not at the borders. But just to be nice, it's because there are way too many roads and back country to go through. A lot of it private land, also. The checkpoints being where they are really is about the best place to put them.
I don't see you crying about the Canadian borders. Hmmm...
Once again, all this talk but no better solution.
I, of course am all for a wall or a "make my country" law.
Offer rational statements or solutions, not further questions. That accomplishes nothing.

You're joking right? How about a secure boarder that doesn't violate the 4A?

Okay......I guess I am unclear how checkpoints looking for illegals, drug dealers and BGs in general violates your 4th Amendment rights. The checkpoints don't. Sometimes rotten apples in uniform do, but, just like I said to Turtle, you got a better idea?
Oh, and if either of you do, then write your Sen. and Congressmen.
WTF do you expect me to personally do? Go and get all the bad guys for you? Go do it yourself.
Of course, that would take balls, not internet whining......

[Irving]

I don't have another solution, but that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to be against laying down and having my rights trampled. My esposa is from El Salvador and is a resident alien. Why should I be stopped at a check point every time because she looks hispanic? If I've done nothing wrong, then I shouldn't be disturbed at all. I guess if you haven't done anything wrong, then you wouldn't mind getting a cavity search at one of those check points right? I mean, you have nothing to hide right?

[Tristan]

I don't have another solution, but that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to be against laying down and having my rights trampled. My esposa is from El Salvador and is a resident alien. Why should I be stopped at a check point every time because she looks hispanic? If I've done nothing wrong, then I shouldn't be disturbed at all. I guess if you haven't done anything wrong, then you wouldn't mind getting a cavity search at one of those check points right? I mean, you have nothing to hide right?

lol, I guess it would depend on how hot she was, he-he.
And, again, you're being ridiculous. Why would I get searched, let alone a BCS if I've done nothing wrong.
And, again, offer a better solution. You're saying the same thing again. Bitching about your wife being hispanic (as is my ex) and being profiled. I know. But what better idea do you have? How can one not profile? There are choices here. To profile or not to profile. So, if we don't profile, and let every hispanic pass unobstructed, well, that would kinda defeat the purpose, eh?
So why are you blaming fellow Americans instead of the bad illegals who caused all this shit?
And you tell me how an officer is to determine whether you and your wife are BGs or not.
And, again, how are your rights being violated? I still don't see it.

[Irving]

ssf467 already gave you the better solution, NO check points within the borders. You want more than that? Every year, every business in the states is audited and the legality of every employee is checked. Those who aren't legal are deported. I'm against big government, but if companies aren't going to filter their employees, then they've forced the government's hand to do it for them. Many companies run back ground checks before hiring people, but I feel like they dig up too MUCH info that way. For example, it shouldn't matter if you are a felon or something, if you've served your full time.

Perhaps a better way would be to audit companies and see what they are paying people. No one is paying illegals MORE than they would pay a legal person. If you force companies to pay at least minimum wage, then hiring illegals for the SAME cost as a legal person will no longer be so alluring. I don't like that idea either though, since I'm not sure where I stand on the concept of a minimum wage. Besides that, you can't legislate behavior, so you'll never be able to rid the country of crooked accountants etc.

I don't have all the answers, but that should never exclude me from pointing out what is a bad, or even illegal, way to fight a problem. Just because I don't have the answers to solve every economic problem, or even just one, does NOT forfeit my right to bitch about injustices.

[Tristan]

Agreed 99%. Especially on the companies bit.
But it would be logistically impossible to put the checkpoints at the border.
And anyone with officer military training would also know why you don't put checkpoints at the borders themselves. You have to have strategically located spots, and that's where they are.
And with no checkpoints....
Trust me-read my earlier post about sportsman's. I can't stand illegals. Especially since a lot of companies offer better wages to anybody that is bilingual. But whatever.
I understand venting. But things need to be accomplished. But blaming fellow Americans and the good folks who put their lives on the line to protect YOU really pisses me off.
Hell, I've been shot at by the bastards. My solution is a little extreme.
But, I still have to hear how anybodies fourth amendment rights (which is what this is supposed to be about) got violated.
Preacher boys' didn't. He resisted arrested and did not comply with a lawful order after a dog (which are pretty infallible) fingered his car. Or what, as officers, they're supposed to let every tom dick and harry tell them what to do?
Silly.
He's lucky he didn't get it worst. People are scared. So try to their job, being afraid. You don't know who to trust and who not to. You don't know by skin color, accent or anything else who is a BG.
Then you get somebody who just wants to argue with you. Blah.
I'd of kicked his ass worst.

[Irving]

I've been thinking about police dogs lately. It seems to me that it'd be pretty easy to train a dog to bark at a car with a code word. Then, you could search whoever you wanted, whenever you wanted.

[Hoser]

I've been thinking about police dogs lately. It seems to me that it'd be pretty easy to train a dog to bark at a car with a code word. Then, you could search whoever you wanted, whenever you wanted.

Not everyone. Just the ones with the tin foil hats that are on way too tight.