^^^^ Pretty much what is being communicated on the military forums.
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^^^^ Pretty much what is being communicated on the military forums.
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A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
In at least one of the videos where he begged for U.S. help to "free" him, he was wearing an Army PT jacket. You don't wear those while "on patrol". If he was truly "captured" versus intentionally joining the Taliban, it didn't occur while he was performing official duties.
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Not good. If O & Co did this swap just to get VA scandal off the radar, without the intention of putting this guy through the UCMJ (assuming all that stuff is true, which I obviously have no way of knowing, but don't doubt), then.. just wow.Originally Posted by OneGuy67
ETA: Some links from big media:
http://nypost.com/2014/05/31/the-biz...ast-known-pow/ [bergdahl s***-talking the US/Army and sympathizing with afghans]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...499_story.html [Service members consider bergdahl a POS]
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Man, if any if these are true....I don't know what to think. (bold added deliberately) Do we negotiate and give up the big-shot taliban asshats for this guy?
“I am sorry for everything here,” he wrote. “These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid.”
Bergdahl also complained about fellow soldiers. The battalion commander was a “conceited old fool,” he said, and the only “decent” sergeants, planning to leave the platoon “as soon as they can,” told the privates — Bergdahl then among them — “to do the same.”
“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.”I'm as confused as anyone.One night, after finishing a guard-duty shift Bowe Bergdahl asked his team leader whether there would be a problem if he left camp with his rifle and night-vision goggles — to which the team leader replied “yes.”
Bergdahl then returned to his bunker, picked up a knife, water, his diary and a camera, and left camp, according to Rolling Stone.
The next morning, he was reported missing, and later that day, a drone and four fighter jets began to search for him.
From a friend of mine:
The news broke today that PFC Bowe Bergdahl the supposed POW was released to US custody today following an exchange for 5 high value targets from GITMO. Aside from the fact that a precedent has been set now that all US troops down range are worth 5 Taliban effectively putting a big fat target on them for capture, and that the US does in fact negotiate with terrorists, the fact that the true nature of how he came to be in Taliban custody has been completely whitewashed makes me sick to my stomach. I refer to him as PFC (Private First Class) as that is the rank he was when he deserted. When you are officially classified as a POW you get promoted along with your peers, and I refuse to refer to him as a Sergeant because he did not earn these goddamn stripes.
I was deployed to Afghanistan, supporting PFC Bergdahl's unit when this all went down and we got the story first hand from his fellow soldiers. The short version is that PFC Bergdahl deserted his unit and his fellow soldiers, and attempted to defect to the Taliban and pass them all the intel he had. He wrote letters stating he was ashamed to be an American, dressed up as a local national and left his gear and weapon in his hooch. He then snuck off the FOB (Forward Operating Base) during shift change and was snatched when he met up with enemy forces thinking they would welcome him with open arms.
In the immediate operation to find him everything stopped and all resources were put to locating him. Over 12 US troops were killed in action and dozens wounded in the attempt to locate him.
Seeing the flurry of facebook posts and news stories falling all over themselves to fawn at his return forget the facts outlined above.
Take it or leave it, you can believe the media and the government or you can believe those that were on the ground when it happened.
What is interesting is that why now, after 5 years when they could have made this exchange at any time, is this done?
Oh, I don't know...perhaps with the VA scandal reaching a critical mass and Spokeshole Carney and Sh!tseki (Yeah, spelled it that way on purpose) resigning...the President needed a win and desperately needed to change the focus of the news cycle?
Watch. By Monday the deplorable conditions veterans experience at the VA will be a footnote and the entire focus will be on PFC Bergdahl. Nevermind the 23 veterans that commit suicide every 24 hours, nevermind the veterans left to die so administrators can get their bonuses, nevermind the fact that they just attempt to medicate us instead of treating us...lets all just focus on feeling good because a treasonous traitor was brought home.
He needs to stand trial for Treason, Desertion in a time of war, providing material support to the enemy, and a number of other things.
Thanks for the post. I have been eating a lot of chatters along this line.
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commentary on his father speaking Arabic at the news conference from Allen West
http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bombsh...-house-arabic/
I can't help but agree, the timing on this is very suspicious. And I remember Reagan and both Bush's stating many times that it is the policy of this nation that we do not negotiate with terrorists. So thank you Obama, now you just quantified what our troops are worth to the enemy. They were content with killing our troops, now they will try hand and foot to capture if possible.
If Bergdahl really is a deserter, it wouldn't surprise me if Obama gives him a medal. That's just the kind of administration we're dealing with. Shameful.
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This is true.
However, he should be held accountable for deserting his post. The stories about him walking away are true. I wasn't in his unit but we were deployed to Afghanistan at the same time. Once this happened, we launched EVERY Soldier in an attempt to lock down the border crossings. We didn't have any KIAs but we did have several Purple Hearts out of the operations.
He left his post with some water, a compass and a knife. When he ran out of the water, he made his way to village where he was turned over to the Taliban. It took him all of 24 hours to go make a video decrying the war effort and saying how American Soldiers are killing children. It was all over the news at the time. I wonder why no one is showing that now?
In this political environment, he will not be charged with any crimes. He will most likely be labeled unfit for duty and discharged with 100% disability. Too bad for those real heroes who died trying to find him.
Bet you $20 that there is an article about how fast the VAgets him in and taken care of. If it comes to that, and when the time comes.
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