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    So my only question, to all these people who say that signing petitions, writing your elected officials, calling congress, etc. isn't doing anything, what would you propose be done? It's a bit hard to just walk up to the gates of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue strut right in and place Barry and his gang of lawbreakers in cuffs and march them out the front door to stand trial without someone trying to stop you. Unfortunately, that's the only thing that will help a little to put us back on the right path. And unfortunately, it just isn't feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    what would you propose be done?
    Something that men in power have taken care to ensure can no longer be done. The Patriot Act and NDAA have made it so that the act of even discussing civil disobedience or exercising your 2nd amendment rights for their intended purpose is a crime that they can take you on without due process. So uh, here's to hoping Holder and the gang don't pick me up. I'm pretty sure the 1st amendment is supposed to prevent that from happening to, but...you know.

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    Not sure this has been posted, but I think it is so true:

    This is not a POW exchange like past wars. Terrorists are not and have never been considered prisoners of war, not even under the Geneva Convention. Article Five. They’re illegal enemy combatants or if you prefer unlawful enemy combatants.
    You’ve got Carney saying this. You’ve got Hagel saying this. This is the party line. I’m waiting on them to pull out some video from some guy in California.
    We don’t exchange soldiers for terrorists! And these five terrorists are to be held until the end of hostilities. Hostilities haven’t ended.
    These terrorists are going to go back to the battlefield and they’re going to take up arms and they’re going to kill more Americans and innocent Afghans.
    Under no circumstances are they to be released to kill more Americans. Period. Let alone in an exchange for a putative deserter.
    And then they say the US military doesn’t leave anyone anywhere, that we don’t do that. Well, of course it’s been done. But more to the point, if he’s a deserter, it’s not us leaving him. It’s him leaving us.
    And no soldier’s life should be sacrificed looking for a deserter. No terrorist should be released to do more damage, maiming and murdering.

    http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-...-pow-exchange/

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    IMHO just because an enemy turns himself into an Unlawful enemy combatant that does not give us free reign to not follow the rules of war. We are at war with terrorists.

    "Under no circumstances are they to be released to kill more Americans. Period."

    If I was still in the military I would gratefully pay the price for ensuring these 5 terrorists do not go free and face trial for war crimes. Heck if I am captured as a contractor or even just a US citizen I would do the same.
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    Obama should be impeached. He signed the bill into law requiring the 30 day notification for prisoner release a year ago. If he didn't like it he could have refused to sign it or vetoed it. Instead he signed it and later decided it didn't apply to him.

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    I expect a lot more outrageous things to come out of this administration in the next 2.5 years. He has nothing to lose.

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    Looks like a lot of D's are not happy campers, either.
    http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-ap...225752330.html

    Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein, a senior member of President Barack Obama's Democratic Party, said the White House breached US law when it failed to alert Congress to the proposed trade.

    "It comes with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following the law," she told reporters.
    "We're very dismayed about it."
    Feinstein reflected mounting bipartisan concern as lawmakers questioned the merits of releasing from Guantanamo five hardened Taliban fighters and officials in exchange for Bergdahl.


    "I am concerned about what precedents we set here for exchanges, because I don't want the message to be, you can go ahead and capture Americans and use them to barter for others," Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Robert Menendez told reporters.

    And lawmakers Tuesday seized on administration rationale that the swap was rushed because Bergdahl's health had deteriorated sharply and his life was in immediate danger.

    "I have heard no evidence that that is the case," said Senate Intelligence Committee member Susan Collins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I expect a lot more outrageous things to come out of this administration in the next 2.5 years. He has nothing to lose.
    Totally agree. I fully expect that to happen after mid-terms. He's biding his time hoping the Dems at least hold the Senate. No matter what happens after the midterms he's going into full bore imperial president mode. The sickening thing to me is all the bitching and complaining the Repubs do, and nothing ever comes of it. Fast and Furious / NSA outings / using the IRS to target enemies should have forced him out or crippled him, but everyone shrugs and goes on. He knows he can get away with pretty much whatever he wants, these last 2.5 years will be legislated by fiat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    trea·son  (trē′zən)
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    1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
    2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.




    More than one involved in this transaction meets the above criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Totally agree. I fully expect that to happen after mid-terms. He's biding his time hoping the Dems at least hold the Senate. No matter what happens after the midterms he's going into full bore imperial president mode. The sickening thing to me is all the bitching and complaining the Repubs do, and nothing ever comes of it. Fast and Furious / NSA outings / using the IRS to target enemies should have forced him out or crippled him, but everyone shrugs and goes on. He knows he can get away with pretty much whatever he wants, these last 2.5 years will be legislated by fiat.
    Yep. Hate to say it, but there is still a large group in this country that actually think he's a good president, even after this latest turn of events. He could go on TV right now and proclaim that he hates America and wishes we would just be communists already and you would have the zombified supporters say "oh he's so charismatic, he's such a great leader." Remember, never underestimate stupid people in large groups, especially those who vote.

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