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    I think Kopp's name not being well known is a good thing. The GOP always announces their candidates so darn early and the only thing it accomplishes is allowing the enemy more time to demonize them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Really the only thing not to like about Kopp is that he's not a household name ... however THAT may actually be his saving grace. Sure nobody outside of conservative and Republican circles knows him, but that means nobody outside of conservative and Republican hates him either.

    Once the primary is over we all need to get behind the winner no matter who it is (yes, even Tancredo or Beauprez) because any of these guys will be better than Hickenlooper (and honestly none of them are "Dan Maes" or "Chris Christie" bad).

    If Hickenlooper wins the gun laws he signed will be carved in stone, we'll never get rid of them (unless we're unGodly lucky in court). Period. Also the left will be so empowered by his victory it will be as though the recalls never happened and they'll go into leftard destruction overdrive (so you can forget ever having a good business environment or inexpensive utilities ever again).

    A Hickenlooper win is likely the permanent Californication of Colorado.

    That is the thing, Kopp seems like a no-brainer decision to me. Beuprez and Tancredo are proven losers already and will do nothing but drive voters to vote for Hick. With Kopp he is new and fresh. Gessler would be my second pick with the two retreads in a distant 3rd and who cares. I just can't believe that the CO GOP is pumping money toward the two retreads already and not trying to nuture and grow the new guys.

    The one thing Kopp needs to be careful of is the abortion issue. Saw on twitter today that he was talking about how he is for whatever is pro-life. He needs to ignore this issue all together and when asked about it, just say that this election is not about abortion and then go on to talk about Obamacare, civil rights and economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    The one thing Kopp needs to be careful of is the abortion issue. Saw on twitter today that he was talking about how he is for whatever is pro-life. He needs to ignore this issue all together and when asked about it, just say that this election is not about abortion and then go on to talk about Obamacare, civil rights and economy.
    Thing is, IIRC Kopp is a former pastor ... so he's actually less harmed by the pro-life position than most since people expect a pastor to be pro-life ... side note, Ritter was pro-life and it didn't stop dems or indys from voting for him (so I don't buy the idea that independents are completely turned off by it).

    As for bringing the issue up, the Democrats will bring it up regardless. Just look at the ads against Cory Gardner and he's recanted his support for the person-hood amendment but the dems are still flinging the "wants to ban birth control (including the rhythm method) and throw unmarried pregnant women in prison for the rest of their lives" bovine scat.
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    Yep...it doesn't matter who it is on the republican side them democrats will use the non-issue of abortion to demonize that person. Standard operating procedure. I couldn't care less about how a candidate feels about abortion.
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    Bailey Guns inspired me to create this...

    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Kopp +1

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    I went with Kopp too. The others had too much baggage for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Bailey Guns inspired me to create this...
    Well you see, some people do care. If it was not effective it would not keep coming up, much like "They are gonna take your guns."

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    Was a story on NPR this morning (KUNC) that mentioned the democrats running these ads. Their effectiveness should drop if people know why they are being run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sroz View Post
    I am one of those Independent voters & although none of these candidates excite me, I plan to vote anyone but Hick. In my opinion, Jim is absolutely right. If you sit home because your "R" candidate did not win, we lose. Yes, we need to get the "I" vote, but will that really matter if many of you Repubs stay home? I don' t need a perfect candidate to support. Hick & what has occurred in this state is enough to motivate me to go out and vote...against Hick.
    ^This. Staying home doesn't help us at all. There will never be a prefect candidate. Get out and vote for the guy you like better than the other.

    The only reason you shouldn't vote against Hick is if you think the other guy will be worse than Hick. And if that's the case you might as well cast your vote for for the incumbent.
    Staying home is a wishy washy, passive tactic simply allowing everyone else to decide for you.

    Do I think any of our choices are perfect? Hell no. But do I think most of them are better than Hick? Hell yes I do. So I will stand behind our only chance to beat him.

    This country is being killed by incremental changes. We talk about it daily on this forum. Incremental shifts to the left each year are adding up to massive ideological shifts that are killing us. Maybe we should take a page from the lib playbook and fight back. We aren't going to get a perfect candidate which would amount to a massive shift back to the right. So maybe we should support a candidate that will give us an incremental shift back to the right? Take a single step in the right direction just so we can get a win.

    Would it make sense for a football team to go out and throw a bomb to the endzone every single down? Nope. They fight for every yard. They fight for a first down so they can keep the ball.

    Too many on the right understand there is no chance they are going to get a touchdown so instead of fighting for a first down they just take their ball and go home. But you know what, that's a forfeit. And a forfeit is still a LOSS.

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