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    Quote Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
    I went to the shop in Longmont and meet with Paul. The first thing he did was walk over to the cash register and handed me a cash refund. He then filled out the paper work and gave me a priority mail envelope addressed to the ATF. Told me if I wanted it would only cost me the tax stamp for the suppressor. Paul seemed to be trying to right the ship that a former partner left listing. I say if you’re having issues go to the shop talk to Paul, I think we’ll make it right. At least he did for me.
    Which suppressor did you order? Did they actually have the suppressor made or just a dedicated serial number?

    I had a SHDW-45 on order since January that I could never get any information about. I finally got fed up and let my credit card company deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnj091405 View Post
    SB15 Shadow Ops Defective Lowers.
    I've got five of these defective lowers.
    5/5 I can't get any mag in (Magpul Gen2, Gen3, 10,20, 30... Troy Battle Mag, GI Mag). If I get it in, it surely doesn't come out.
    How did you get Paul's number? How long did it take to get new ones?

    Thanks greg

    Greg, I had the same issue with the two shadow ops lowers I received about a month ago. I ended up finding my loosest fitting GI mag and spreading lapping compound on the edges that rubbed the lower. Twenty minutes of working the clip in and out and the fit loosened up. It seems as though the mag well tolerances are tight enough that the anodizing process adds just enough to make mag fit undesirable. Once I was finished you could see where the anodizing was worn down where the mag rubbed. Magpuls fall right out now. Not desirable to have to do this, but at least the mags fit now and I didn't have to track down the ever elusive shadow ops team.

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    Why are they still being promoted as "Partners" on the COAR15 pages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Why are they still being promoted as "Partners" on the COAR15 pages?
    I dont think they are still? Other than this thread that keeps popping up I have all but forgotten them.
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    I dont think they are still? Other than this thread that keeps popping up I have all but forgotten them.
    About 5 minutes ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    About 5 minutes ago...

    Got missed. Thanks for pointing it out Brutal. Cleanup, Isle 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
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    Didn't even see the PARTNERS on the bottom of the page, dont hardly ever scroll down that far................

    Sounds like the CAT GUY is aware and will be no more in due time.

    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    I probably shouldnt say this.... but, We are not promoting the shadowops company anymore. ARE WE PROMOTING the guys who were part of the company that fucked over gun owners across the country. leaving after orders and money came in is wrong. at least to me. I wouldnt do business with the splinter group either. I think we should purge that company as well. for the safety of our members. If they could have fulfilled orders before they left, then they shoudnt be here. if by them leaving after money and orders came in gun owners across America got fucked over, then they shouldnt be here. If that is the case, and it seems to be something along those lines according to posts here.

    questions that need asked and answered.
    Did you receive any money that came from orders that you didnt complete before you bailed? could you have stayed any made sure people didnt get fucked over?
    While you raised the valid questions, I myself never did business with either, almost pulled the trigger (pun intended) with Shadow but never did, luck of the draw. If I was in those customers shoes that got screwed I would be pissed as hell, as I have been there myself with other "businesses."

    On that note, without knowing more than what is on the surface that we already know such as the "Owner" is a guy back east, the original crew walked out and started their own. I have no legitimate factual information about what happened internally that caused it, and who the blame should be given to or if everyone involved should wear the shame hat and unless one or all of them steps in and tells the whole story we may never know. So I am staying out of it as I have nothing to offer on the subject matter.

    Last edited by Skully; 09-13-2014 at 15:00.
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    I would not hold them responsible for what happened.
    They are not beholden to their job.
    If the captain is about run the ship aground, they should stay at their posts and go down with the ship?

    And to say they have a responsibility to "Gun owners across America" is ridiculous.
    It is a business like any other, a product is a product.
    Does this analog work? If this was an auto repair business, would you never go back to your mechanic at his new shop?

    I am not happy about what happened, I bought things from them and never had any issue.
    In retrospect it would seem I may have lucked out.
    I would not hesitate to to look up the new company and may just swing by to see them next time I am in the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    if they were partners who split after the money came in, then yes they are responsible. and if someone takes money and then just jumps ship that is bs.

    as far as me saying Gun owners across America, thats because we have people joining this forum just to bitch about this pos company. And I have seen similar threads on other forums. if one of these guys was a partner, not just an employee then he shouldnt be allowed to advertise here. IF that is the case. IF this person then took the staff with him and left the out of state partner holding the bag, that is also bullshit.

    we dont need any sketchy businesses here. we dont need to see more of our members get fucked out of money. Because we had alot of members lose alot of money this year because of bad businesses. its not a risk the moderators should take(in my opinion), wondering if this will happen again.

    And I say IF, because all we have heard is the partners split and one took the staff and walked out leaving the other one trying to fulfill orders. Which isnt working out well. Maybe someone who actually knows wants to tell the truth about what happened and why we should trust anyone from that company now.
    I concur. It was mentioned before but my post was deleted.
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    Been half heartedly following this thread.

    At the end of the day, you are only as good as your word. Waiting to hear more feedback about what Paul is doing to make things right.

    I have had (and been screwed by) partners in the past. Got the poop end of the stick and had to deal.

    I'll reserve judgement...
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