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    Question M1 Garand Question?

    I'm wondering if someone can tell me the difference between A National Match barrel on a M1 Garand vs standard issue? Heavier? contour? # of groves? What makes it better?
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    Typically a NM barrel is going to graded on a few things, I can't make a statement on the amount of grooves but they should be very consistent in the tolerance range, slightly heavier contours in key areas, better concentricity of the bore relative to the OD, component mounting areas are located correctly and to correct specifications and bore straightness.
    I feel it would be a good bet to say that an original military NM barrel is probably rode hard and put away wet.
    Aftermarket such as Krieger is the way to go.
    But the actual barrel is a small component of a NM rifle. Correct chambering, headspacing, correct gas cylinder fitment, correct operating rod alignment proper action/stock relationship and fitting all play into the equation.
    You can have all of the NM components on a rifle but if they don't work together correctly it doesn't mean much.
    How the rifle shoots defines NM suitability better than it having all of the NM goodies hanging on it.
    I have witnessed a 1954 vintage Garand with the original barrel and standard GI components shoot lights out compared to NM Springfield M1A's because it was put together right.
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    Although I don't claim to know a whole lot about Garands, they are my all time favorites of ALL firearms (including C&R's and moderns) and I sure do enjoy posts and conversations about them. Wish there were more folks here who feel the same way about Garands and discuss them.

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    I'd love to get a Garand in .308 , with adjustable gas system ( I know some of you are cringing, but hear me out)

    Since the only advantage 30-06 has over .308 is with heavier bullets... Which should not be shot out of a Garand...
    I am already setup to reload .308... So it fits better for me as a .308

    The only way I'd buy one in 30-06 is if it was beat to hell and priced like it... Just look at all the marks and let your imagination take over...
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    A Garand is like an old Harley Panhead.
    A bit cantankerous, needs the right touch and lube but when running right it is sweeter than you can ever dream of and has a soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    A Garand is like an old Harley Panhead.
    A bit cantankerous, needs the right touch and lube but when running right it is sweeter than you can ever dream of and has a soul.
    +1. The correct lube/grease can make a difference.

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    Thanks for the input!! Still trying to figure out if a NM barrel construction is really better built. One would think so. Back in the day, I wonder what type craftsmanship went into National Match M1 Garand?
    OR just Mass produce?
    Thanks Again?

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    Mass produced, they just took the time to go through piles of barrels and hand select some sweeties.
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    I will never sell my M1, I have had it for 30 something years and it is a shooter. If you miss, it is your fault. I would like more M1's but I can only shoot one at a time and with my M1917 and 1093A3 all shooting the same ammo, it starts to get expensive. Have fun with yours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    I will never sell my M1, I have had it for 30 something years and it is a shooter. If you miss, it is your fault. I would like more M1's but I can only shoot one at a time and with my M1917 and 1093A3 all shooting the same ammo, it starts to get expensive. Have fun with yours!
    +1. Although mine is not a National Match Garand, it is dang near as accurate. If/when I'm not doing real good with it, it is entirely MY fault. Long live the M1 Garands.

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