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    Quote Originally Posted by encorehunter View Post
    buta lot of people still come to a complete stop with no one coming.
    Yeah. I almost plowed into one of those jackasses in Brighton one morning. He?s in front of me as we approach the roundabout and it?s pretty obvious he an I are the only vehicles to be seen anywhere in any direction. I wasn?t prepared for him to come to a complete stop at the yield sign going in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    We could avoid the 4 way problems by going to roundabouts.
    People cant figure out a stop sign they should just go play on the freeway. Have you been to countries with roundabouts? Whole new set of problems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    People cant figure out a stop sign they should just go play on the freeway. Have you been to countries with roundabouts? Whole new set of problems...
    Like better flowing traffic?
    Having to continually stop for stop signs and poorly timed traffic lights is bad for traffic flow, bad for your vehicle, and bad for the environment.

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    I don't like roundabouts. I have no problem using them, I just don't like them. Funny...the modern roundabout really began in the UK. The UK is now deciding roundabouts create as many problems as they solve and they're replacing many of them with traffic lights. The US is really starting to embrace roundabouts. Perfect example of what goes around, comes around.
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    I see roundabouts as an opportunity to brush up on my drifting skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't like roundabouts. I have no problem using them, I just don't like them. Funny...the modern roundabout really began in the UK. The UK is now deciding roundabouts create as many problems as they solve and they're replacing many of them with traffic lights. The US is really starting to embrace roundabouts. Perfect example of what goes around, comes around.
    Roundabouts, (or Rotaries as they are known in New England area) have been used for a while in the eastern US. I grew up running rotaries and never saw the problems they cause out here. However, there were two big differences. Back east the rotaries are much larger in diameter and there isn't a bunch of crap in the middle. If you can see across the whole circle and don't have to drop much speed going around because of the larger radius, they work great. The tiny ones here with some sort of monument or bigazz landscaping in the middle only allow you to see over your shoulder for the split second of traffic time, so everyone practically comes to a stop every time. Clearwater florida put in a circle out at the beach (spent millions building the damn thing) and within a matter of months deemed it a hazard and tore it all out. The problem? too small diameter for busses to negotiate and a huge fountain in the middle so you couldn't see across to judge traffic openings.

    They work fine in some situations and arrangements. But current architectural pressures make them stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    Roundabouts, (or Rotaries as they are known in New England area) have been used for a while in the eastern US. I grew up running rotaries and never saw the problems they cause out here. However, there were two big differences. Back east the rotaries are much larger in diameter and there isn't a bunch of crap in the middle. If you can see across the whole circle and don't have to drop much speed going around because of the larger radius, they work great. The tiny ones here with some sort of monument or bigazz landscaping in the middle only allow you to see over your shoulder for the split second of traffic time, so everyone practically comes to a stop every time. Clearwater florida put in a circle out at the beach (spent millions building the damn thing) and within a matter of months deemed it a hazard and tore it all out. The problem? too small diameter for busses to negotiate and a huge fountain in the middle so you couldn't see across to judge traffic openings.

    They work fine in some situations and arrangements. But current architectural pressures make them stupid.
    Yes, larger = good; stuff in middle is dumb, but they do it to keep people from driving straight through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    Yes, larger = good; stuff in middle is dumb, but they do it to keep people from driving straight through.
    meh. a high curb and grassy field in the middle... never saw anyone drive through one. Not like a "bounce, whoops, keep going, hope no one saw that" situation. Proper offroading to shoot the center.



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    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    meh. a high curb and grassy field in the middle... never saw anyone drive through one. Not like a "bounce, whoops, keep going, hope no one saw that" situation. Proper offroading to shoot the center.



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