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    why do people buy kia and hyundai when they should obviously not trust their safety or driving pleasure to anything less than a mercedes? Because this is AMERICA and we have the ability to make choices.







    and I have never owned a keltec, kia or hyundai.
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    A few of their guns, the PMR-30 and P32 (I think) are Grendel designs and were manufactured by Grendel. I think both companies are the same dude though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdown View Post
    A few of their guns, the PMR-30 and P32 (I think) are Grendel designs and were manufactured by Grendel. I think both companies are the same dude though.
    Yep, George Kellgren moved to the US and started Kel-Tec but he used to work for Grendel (and designed the P30).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    why do people buy kia and hyundai when they should obviously not trust their safety or driving pleasure to anything less than a mercedes? Because this is AMERICA and we have the ability to make choices.
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    It doesn't matter how many rifles you buy...they're still cheaper than one wife, in the long run.
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    I have a little PF nine that stays in my truck and every time I shot it runs just fine. It works reliably and it's cheap enough that I don't care when it gets all scuffed up from bouncing around. I'm not planning on using it in any matches anytime soon. It should be very effective for its use if needed.

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    Kel-Tec. cuz.... 'murica!
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    For those of you with a RMR30...

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    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
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    late to the game. I had the predecessor.


    And this unit. Both bbls were 1/2 x 28 threaded. Still have some spare parts laying around.

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    Price / fun gun, I get it.

    As for govt contracts: If you are designing and manufacturing a "tactical" rifle/shotgun/pistol, and do not have any level of govt or military interested in any of your products, I will more than likely choose something else.

    I would have never purchased a Glock or Tavor if not for their long history of acceptance testing.

    I just wish someone would come out with a stainless AR receiver set that I could afford.

    IMO, guns should only be made from stainless steel and wood.

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    .gov is not known for making the best choices... love my Sub2000, cheesy plastic bits and all.

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