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    I am planning on building a box for my girlfriend who used to be in the Army. She has 5 ARCOM's, one with the "V" device. Is the proper uniform placement for this to have two ARCOM's one with the "V" device centered, followed by one with 3 OLC attached?

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    AR 670-1
    29–12. Wear of appurtenances
    Appurtenances are devices affixed to service or suspension ribbons, or worn in lieu of medals or ribbons. They are
    worn to denote an additional award, participation in a specific event, or some other distinguishing characteristic of an
    award. The following appurtenances are authorized for wear on decorations, medals, ribbons and other awards, when
    authorized by appropriate authority. When more than one appurtenance is worn, soldiers will ensure all devices are
    centered on the ribbon. (See AR 600–8–22 for additional information.)
    a. Oak leaf clusters.
    (1) A bronze twig of four oak leaves with three acorns on each stem is worn to denote award of second and
    succeeding awards of decorations (other than the Air Medal), the Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal, and
    unit awards. A silver oak leaf cluster is worn in lieu of five bronze oak leaf clusters. It is worn to the wearer’s right of a bronze oak leaf cluster and to the left of the “V” device.




    I would say one ribbon, V device on the wearer's left of the oak leaves?

    Build the rack on this website, it will place the ribbons and devices correctly:
    http://www.ultrathin.com/
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    What do you do when you cannot affix 3 OLC's and a "V" device to the same ribbon? Do you add another ribbon of the same type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    What do you do when you cannot affix 3 OLC's and a "V" device to the same ribbon? Do you add another ribbon of the same type?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Leaf_Cluster
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_device
    I think an additional ribbon would be authorized then. I would build the rack on that other website to give you a visual representation.


    From: EZRackbuilder.com in the army regulations section.
    "If the number of authorized oak leaf clusters exceeds four and will not fit on a single ribbon, a second ribbon is authorized for wear. When the second ribbon is worn, it is placed after the first ribbon; the second ribbon counts as one award."
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    Ah yes, I got it thanks.

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    So for example when I would order my rack from EZrackbuilder or some other site the placement would be shown here imagine other ribbons around it.

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    Somethiong like this (From EZRackbuilder.com) This is where you can definately get the Placement and order of precedence correct if you don't want to go read the regulation. Also to make things easier if you are assembling it yourself (instead of just ordering a complete rack from one of these sites, you should be able to order 3 OLC's attached together so you are not trying to get them all to lay just right on the ribbon when you poke them through.
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    While we are on the subject I might as well brag.



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    I know the the rackbuilder site does not show it this way, but I believe you should put the V and 4 bronze oak leaf clusters all on one ribbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    I know the the rackbuilder site does not show it this way, but I believe you should put the V and 4 bronze oak leaf clusters all on one ribbon.
    I think there isn't enough room for all of that on the ribbon. I could be wrong, never myself had to put that many devices on one ribbon actually. I know the OLC's that come with 4 together are a little more compact than having to put 4 individual ones on there. That might allow enough room to get them all on there.

    The graphics I posted are right from the EZ rackbuilder site when I tried to build a rack with 5 ARCOMS and a V device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbeau30 View Post
    While we are on the subject I might as well brag.



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    That's cute.
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