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    "Then my plans were to enter and throw Molotov cocktails and pipe bombs and destroy everyone, and then when SWAT comes I would destroy myself," he said.
    After his arrest, police say, LaDue told them the plot was written down in a notebook and kept in a locked guitar case in his room. LaDue also said he had an assault rifle, a number of handguns and 400 rounds of ammunition in a gun safe that was also in his room. Search warrants were issued, and police recovered seven firearms, ammunition and three functional bombs from LaDue's home, along with black clothing and a ski mask.


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    Sounds like he wouldn't even attempt to go up against SWAT. I wonder why not. Perhaps if he was used to challenging himself, he wouldn't be in the mindset he is today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Sounds like he wouldn't even attempt to go up against SWAT. I wonder why not. Perhaps if he was used to challenging himself, he wouldn't be in the mindset he is today.
    Probably because his "free for all" would come to an abrupt stop when an armed force showed up.
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    Damn good thing he kept that rifle from getting out and assaulting everybody.
    On a serious note: I am overjoyed this maniac's plans were foiled.
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    I really think this whole mental illness thing is being blown way out of proportion. Is violent mental illness suddenly a more common thing? We've had mental illness for ages, but only now is it really spilling out into society and killing people. I think that's just becoming another scapegoat for this behavior and attitude. I think it's less people are mentally ill and more people are just screwed up and want attention so bad that they go to the most extreme measures to gain notoriety.
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    I do not know it is blown out of proportion or not. But times have changed and "everyone" is okay and no one will take "responsibility." The turning out of those who used to be institutionalized has put more out into the general population. Some will argue chemicals are also creating disorders that are new. The amount of metabolized and non-metabolized pharmaceuticals in the water had increased significantly in the past 20 years. There are a few cases where MDs have opined that drug interactions due to a prescribed medicine and one introduced through food and water had cumulative and severe effects. Also, 20 to 30 years ago, the kid who was a bit "off" got dealt with old school and modified his behavior or ended up in jail. The social climate as well as chemical influence are both factors.
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    I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down.
    That. It's always someone else's fault.

    My wife is a university professor and fails a handful of students every single semester. An F on the transcript likely doesn't please their tuition-paying parents. Nearly every one of those students balks, after the grade, claiming their reasons for not measuring up are special, unlike the others that failed the class - they came up short but there's a good reason, unlike the others. They generally don't take kindly to being told that their excuse isn't any more valid than the next persons. They failed, they aren't special.

    The 'everyone gets a trophy' society we have coddled is going to prove rather interesting as time goes on, I almost wish I still watched TV news. Almost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.

    This is my exact thought. I'm glad that we got this guy off the streets but we need to actually look at the source of this and prevent people from even thinking it.

    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    That. It's always someone else's fault.

    My wife is a university professor and fails a handful of students every single semester. An F on the transcript likely doesn't please their tuition-paying parents. Nearly every one of those students balks, after the grade, claiming their reasons for not measuring up are special, unlike the others that failed the class - they came up short but there's a good reason, unlike the others. They generally don't take kindly to being told that their excuse isn't any more valid than the next persons. They failed, they aren't special.

    The 'everyone gets a trophy' society we have coddled is going to prove rather interesting as time goes on, I almost wish I still watched TV news. Almost.
    Pretty much, just got out of college myself. I saw a lot of this from kids there. Yeah I failed a class before, but it's because I didn't put forth the effort to succeed. People need to take responsibility for their actions.


    Also, 400 rounds? I easily shoot half that every time I go to the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    I do not know it is blown out of proportion or not. But times have changed and "everyone" is okay and no one will take "responsibility." The turning out of those who used to be institutionalized has put more out into the general population. Some will argue chemicals are also creating disorders that are new. The amount of metabolized and non-metabolized pharmaceuticals in the water had increased significantly in the past 20 years. There are a few cases where MDs have opined that drug interactions due to a prescribed medicine and one introduced through food and water had cumulative and severe effects. Also, 20 to 30 years ago, the kid who was a bit "off" got dealt with old school and modified his behavior or ended up in jail. The social climate as well as chemical influence are both factors.
    THIS! If there is someone so off you can't trust them with a letter opener, then why on earth is that person allowed to roam free willy nilly to do what they please if they're that unsafe? I blame the ACLU partially for that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whistler View Post
    I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.
    Unfortunately this is so true!

    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    17 yrs old. Has guns and ammo in a safe in his room. He had a storage unit where he was making explosives.
    Just how did the parents have no clue? Wake the fuck up and start being parents. That's the damn problem. Keep your eyes and ears on your kids. Pay attention to what they are doing. Have an interest in your kids activities and what they are doing and how they are acting. So many douche bag parents just pass the buck saying the had no idea bla bla bla. Fact is they have no idea who their kids are or what they are doing. Too damn busy with their jobs or social scedual to have time for the kids. This is the result.
    I've been saying this for years... Hey kid, where are your parents? When I was growing up, despite my parents being divorced, they both played an active role in my life and were constantly interested in what I was into, what I was doing, and who I was hanging out with. Some parents I've seen these days have kids that play sports, and some of these parents can say what sport they play, but damned if they know what position or if they're any good.
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