Parole vs. Probation is a big difference, I believe the roommate is on probation.Originally Posted by nisils14
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Parole vs. Probation is a big difference, I believe the roommate is on probation.
I might've misunderstood parole vs. probation. Regardless its a crap situation, I think completely removing one's self from such situation is ideal. Just my .02
Both probation and parole bar the person from having access to firearms so the discussion points are still valid.
Her probation officer may be ok with someone in the apartment having guns but probation officers (at least not in the county that I worked in) are not allowed to do house checks by themselves. If the other probation officer accompanying the visitation/search has a qualm with firearms on the premises it could have implications for the boyfriend and girlfriend.
This is just hypothetical though. I did know a lot of probation officers that were extremely against firearms in the house. One guy I worked with that supervised a juvenile on probation (stupid charge, kid shouldn't have gotten probation in the first place imo) strongly suggested that if the parents didn't sell or relocate their firearms the kid could possibly be placed out of home.
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"Compromising" is exactly what he's doing and it's also the smart thing to do. This isn't about "rights" this is about a crappy situation and the OP is trying to keep it from getting crappier. Probably safe to assume that if the OP had the ability to live on his own without a roommate, he would (which means that the option of telling the roommate to FOAD is also off the table.) The roommate's GF is going to be there whether the OP wants her there or not. Saying "screw you, it's my right to keep a gun so I'm going to keep it" is great until OP comes home and finds out the GF has gotten ahold of his weapons and pawned them for drug/booze money, or shot herself or someone else.
Sure, from a legal standpoint he may be "right" but how much crap is he going to go through in the meantime? Seems to me that unless OP thinks he's going to need immediate access to a firearm at his home, removing them until he can get into a better living situation makes perfect sense.
Obviously the best option would be for the OP to not be in this situation, but he is and he has to make the best of it. We all make compromises, every one of us, every day.
Last edited by Martinjmpr; 07-02-2014 at 10:20.
Yet.... Things change when alcohol (or any other addictive drug) is involved or someone who wants it is trying to get it.
ipleadda2nd,
I don't know your situation, but I am leaning towards the "no good dead goes unpunished". That being said this is in no way putting down your buddy and his S.O..
There are just so many ways this can go bad for you and all you are doing is trying to help someone out. Don't forget that many issues get that "domestic" tag on it, and you don't want that. Something could be going as smoothly as you would expect it to be, and whamo, all of a sudden you are trying to break up a fight or something and someone says you did something and you didn't. Now you are hemmed up. I know how the system works, I have been through it and have had troops that have been through it.
Last edited by rbeau30; 07-01-2014 at 15:29.
I have thought this, all too common, scenario out before. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Probation does NOT necessarily remove your firearms rights.
Or Hers for that matter.
You need to get the paperwork and see.
In my youth I was on probation for traffic offenses ( lead foot ... ) Had a police contact ( we were messing around in a park late at night) had a pistols in the trunk.
Officer CHARGED me with felon in possession which was dropped the next day by the DA as I'm not a felon nor did my probation revoke my firearm rights,
This can lead to interesting times for me as it does show up on an FBI report as an arrest but not a conviction, when doing things like crossing the US/Canada border...
Anyways the pistols were returned to me .
This was in New Mexico.
Check the Paper/Terms of probation
Most of the probation terms and conditions state the probationer is not allowed access to weapons during the span of probation. It won't get op in trouble but it could lead to a probation violation for the probationer which could possibly result in revocation of probation and placement/incarceration. It's unlikely but to the strict ones and the persons behavior on probation and past record, still a possibility.
Checking the paperwork is definitely a great idea but how likely would roommate let op see the probation contact? That might just stir up drama and that's exactly what op doesn't need.
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I havent read every post. BUT...
Inviting or allowing a woman with bad deicision making skills into your house is a recipe for disaster. Look at the drama its already causing you. It doesnt matter what the law is pertaining to you haveing firearms in the house. What matters is when the just out of the local academy hard charger comes to your house to take her away and finds guns. Somehow it will cost you time or money. Whats legal isnt always decided on the spot by the LEO.
Last edited by HBARleatherneck; 07-02-2014 at 08:51.
Is she hot?
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