Roommate on probation with my firearms in apartment?

[Punkface]

Probation does NOT necessarily remove your firearms rights.
Or Hers for that matter.


You need to get the paperwork and see.

Check the Paper/Terms of probation

Most of the probation terms and conditions state the probationer is not allowed access to weapons during the span of probation. It won't get op in trouble but it could lead to a probation violation for the probationer which could possibly result in revocation of probation and placement/incarceration. It's unlikely but to the strict ones and the persons behavior on probation and past record, still a possibility.

Checking the paperwork is definitely a great idea but how likely would roommate let op see the probation contact? That might just stir up drama and that's exactly what op doesn't need.

[centrarchidae]

I couldn't drink enough to make this seem like a good idea. Between the hazy status of her probation (is she a prohibited person for federal purposes? That part could bite OP in the ass.), the "domestic violence" issue (defined far more broadly in federal law than state and also well able to come back to bite OP), and the fact that it's not exactly easy to get rid of her later (as in, the entire formal eviction tap dance once she establishes residence), there's just no upside to moving her in, and a whole lot of downside.

[Martinjmpr]

I couldn't drink enough to make this seem like a good idea. Between the hazy status of her probation (is she a prohibited person for federal purposes? That part could bite OP in the ass.), the "domestic violence" issue (defined far more broadly in federal law than state and also well able to come back to bite OP), and the fact that it's not exactly easy to get rid of her later (as in, the entire formal eviction tap dance once she establishes residence), there's just no upside to moving her in, and a whole lot of downside.

I got the impression from the OP's posts that the GF is moving in, whether OP wants her to or not.

Seems that if the OP had the ability to either
(a) tell the roommate that the GF cannot move in, no way, no how, and that if the roommate didn't like that, the roommate and his GF can both GTFO, or
(b) remove himself from the situation by finding his own place, he would have done so.
So OP's question is "what do I do now?"

[Punkface]

Look for another place, other roommates, and start the process of getting his stuff out of the apartment starting with the guns.

My $0.02

[roberth]

I appreciate that you are trying to help her.

But...

You will lose in the end. Your friend needs to tell her to go, leave, soonest. She is dynamite waiting to explode and take you and your friend with her.

If he won't let her go then you need to move out. She isn't worth the trouble she'll cause further down the road or tomorrow night, whichever comes first.

[ipleadda2nd]

There has been an update. She is now not getting out until the 16th. Something about work release and good behavior is allowing her to get out at that later date with less restrictions. There will be no routine or surprise searches. Her probation/parole officer/caseworker (or whatever) has said she can even posses and purchase guns if desired. This is great news.

However, she still is a time bomb. I found out her brother is suicidal (has been for a year). Eventually it will get to her. When it does it, we all know what she's going to do. It WILL end in a 911 call and her getting hauled off in an ambulance. It's happened before (before I knew her).

This is bullshit drama. I hate it. I have narrowed the cause down to my friend. He's responsible for this drama. I'm dropping him out of my life as soon as I can. There are people that attract this kind of thing and he's one of them. I have always prided myself on a no drama lifestyle. I can't believe I didn't pick up on this the 9 years I've known him. I guess I just wasn't as close to him as I am now. Trash, plain and simple.

[ipleadda2nd]

Yet.... Things change when alcohol (or any other addictive drug) is involved or someone who wants it is trying to get it.


ipleadda2nd,

I don't know your situation, but I am leaning towards the "no good dead goes unpunished". That being said this is in no way putting down your buddy and his S.O..

There are just so many ways this can go bad for you and all you are doing is trying to help someone out. Don't forget that many issues get that "domestic" tag on it, and you don't want that. Something could be going as smoothly as you would expect it to be, and whamo, all of a sudden you are trying to break up a fight or something and someone says you did something and you didn't. Now you are hemmed up. I know how the system works, I have been through it and have had troops that have been through it.

I have thought this, all too common, scenario out before. Thanks for mentioning it.

[ipleadda2nd]

Is she hot?

Actually a very good question. Hotness makes us men put up with more BS, and boy do they dish it out.

Objectively, yes. Through my perception, she looks used up. I think she's been blacked out and tossed around by unknown guys too many times. I'm not joking and not laughing.

[Great-Kazoo]

Actually a very good question. Hotness makes us men put up with more BS, and boy do they dish it out.

Objectively, yes. Through my perception, she looks used up. I think she's been blacked out and tossed around by unknown guys too many times. I'm not joking and not laughing.

My kind of girl.

[ipleadda2nd]

My kind of girl.

Now I'm laughing!