FEDS DISPATCHED TO CA.Quell protests

[Great-Kazoo]

If you block a road you have to expect to get arrested. I applaud them but they have to know that is what it'll come to. Try holding a peaceful anti-nuke protest in front of Warren AFB and block the main entrance. You won't last long.

Standing in the middle of a PUBLIC road way is much different than being on A GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION.

This isn't the first time we disagree on something

If i block a road, i'm blocking the road. I am willing to deal with the consequences for my beliefs.
We have an administration who believes what they decide, without approval of Congress is acceptable.
Arrest AMERICAN CITIZENS while ILLEGALS driven across the southwest are given the comforts of home.

[Gman]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

[merl]

Public road or air force base, either way it is civil disobedience. Perfectly valid form of protest but it does carry consequences. It is of interest that the local police wanted no part in enforcing those consequences.

[Great-Kazoo]

Public road or air force base, either way it is civil disobedience. Perfectly valid form of protest but it does carry consequences. It is of interest that the local police wanted no part in enforcing those consequences.

Nor the Mayor. Who was the catalyst, rousing the locals to storm the castle.

Once again the analogy of WHITES IN THE SOUTH, from a Illegal Immigrant Supporter is used.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/07/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t3

The images coming out of Murrieta reminded me of another group of protesters intent on defying an order from the federal government: white Southerners in the 1960s. They also terrorized children, African-Americans who sought to attend desegregated public schools, much as the children on the bus were terrorized by the angry mob.

"The screaming and hateful people in (Murrieta) reminded me of the people who screamed at little black kids walking to schools (accompanied by law enforcement), who treated James Meredith and Autherine Lucy and so many young people horribly. It is so sad that after all these years, so many people haven't gotten a clue about decency and kindness."



Fortunately the comments section is running 60% against ILLEGALS and Ruben's OPINION piece.

Navarette, I seriously disagree with your view on immigrants and I'm a democrat. Stop making excuses and send them back home. This is NOT a humanitarian problem, it's an illegal immigration problem.

[Gman]

Once again the analogy of WHITES IN THE SOUTH, from a Illegal Immigrant Supporter is used.

The one thing they seem to forget is that the past issues were with white DEMOCRATS.

This used to be a nation of laws. Now laws are selectively applied to whomever the administration determines to be the enemy and those that the administration finds in favor.

[Great-Kazoo]

The one thing they seem to forget is that the past issues were with white DEMOCRATS.

This used to be a nation of laws. Now laws are selectively applied to whomever the administration determines to be the enemy and those that the administration finds in favor.

THEY also forget Caesar Chavez, outside of organizing (UFW) for better work / sanitary conditions. Wanted tougher immigration laws, because the "wets" were crossing to CA and under cutting his farm workers.

[Dave_L]

What do you do when the door to your house doesn't lock? You stand guard and protect it.

[merl]

This is NOT a humanitarian problem, it's an illegal immigration problem.

Absolutely. If it for humanitarian reasons there are people living in refugee camps all over Africa that we know without a doubt are in the middle of a crisis. Are we flying those people who are obviously in need to our doorstep? Hell no. Why? Because we could double the population of the country absorbing refugees and there would still be more. We would be creating refugees because now people know make up a story and you are in (like many of these refugees) or leaders would have a way to ship away the people they don't want.

[Kraven251]

while this has always been an issue...suddenly I am left wondering that of all the nightmarish shit that has come out of this administration, if this is the what is going to take the whole country to a bad bad place.

[Gman]

while this has always been an issue...suddenly I am left wondering that of all the nightmarish shit that has come out of this administration, if this is the what is going to take the whole country to a bad bad place.

It's a principle that gets as basic as you can get; You can't have a sovereign nation without defensible borders. Period.