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    Revisit the 1948 war. All the Arab states told the Arab Palestinians to move out as the Jews would get pushed into the sea. Surprise-didn't happen, none of the other Arab countries wanted the Pallys. Eventually in 1979 Egypt signed a peace treaty and what was the outcome? Anwar Sadat was killed by jihadists for that treaty-a tense peace has continued since. In 1994 the late King Hussein of Jordan realized that Israel is here to stay so he made peace, it's been difficult at times but it's held. The Jordanians are wonderful people, very friendly and now have to deal with the rising tide of the jihadists in their country.

    Prior to the Balfour Declaration of 1918 the Jews and Muslims had been coexisting, somewhat peacefully depending on the exact area for many years.

    As to the argument that all the Jews had long left is utter nonesense. There have always been Jews living there, yes the numbers decreased greatly-mostly due to pogroms, and look how they were treated (along with Christians) that had been living for generations in the neighboring countries.

    Just look at what we in the west call "The Temple Mount". If one adheres to theological beliefs it is the spot where Abraham was prepared to sacrifice Isaac. It is the place where many centuries later Mohammed ascended to heaven. There was recently an outstanding IMAX film playing at the Museum of Science and Nature in Denver that looked at Jerusalem from the religious perspective of three girls-Jewish, Muslim and Christian. It didn't really delve into the political quagmire but instead looked at the city from each of their views and the role it played/plays in their faiths.

    As a quote attributed to the late Gold Meir goes, and I'm paraphrasing, "there will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate ours (Jewish)". Frankly I don't feel there will ever truly be peace. I've spent a lot of time in the Middle East, both on a professional and personal level. I've thoroughly enjoyed myself every trip to Jordan and Israel. I would love to go back some day, but that day will have to wait.

    Hamas will gladly sacrifice every child, woman, old man and old woman rather than take the tiniest steps to make peace. They destroyed much of the infrastructure that was installed when Israelis built up the W.B. and Gaza because they were built by Jews. Haven't done any rebuilding in all that time. Arafat was incredibly corrupt, kept all the millions that were poured his way by us and the Europeans NOT to build up the infrastructure but to build up his own (and that of his inner circle's) wealth.


    If Hamas and all their ilk put down their arms there will be peace, if Israel puts down it's arms there will be no Israel.

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    Just read today that Hamas spends an average of $30 million USD on each of the tunnels they build. What if they built schools and hospitals and infrastructure with the money we gave them instead of tunnels to invade and attack our ally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Just read today that Hamas spends an average of $30 million USD on each of the tunnels they build. What if they built schools and hospitals and infrastructure with the money we gave them instead of tunnels to invade and attack our ally?

    Why are we giving them money in the 1st place? We broke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    Why are we giving them money in the 1st place? We broke...
    Broke, the hell you say.

    We're not broke until the presses run out of paper, just like my checkbook.

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    Anyone else starting to have flashbacks?

    What Am I Missing? - Israel and Hamas (Palestinians)
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    I hate to keep bringing up the past but where were there celebrations on 9/11? It really isn't that complicated. Every time there's been a cease fire Hamas has violated it. Every time there's been an offer of peace who is making huge concessions and only asking for being allowed to live in peace without rockets, suicide attacks and planned attacks on kindergartens? It's really not complicated.

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    To answer the OP's question with a question...

    Why does the liberal media love Islam so much?
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    To answer the OP's question with a question...

    Why does the liberal media love Islam so much?
    Alex, I'll take "what is politically correct?" for $100.

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    Why does the Liberal Media hate Israel so much?

    Because the left hates winners and champions the cause of losers.
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    You got that right HoneyBadger.

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