Chase Nobles (Idiot) Kayacks COS drainage ditch during flood

[Colorado_Outback]

People have been running drainage and irrigation ditches throughout Colorado for decades. Some of them are pretty famous runs..



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I didn't realize all the cool kids were doing it.. that changes everything.
Hahaha classic.

[Colorado_Outback]

Only kayaked a few times. My guess would be to duck.

LOL. My point was you could easily find yourself in a situation where there isn't enough room for you and all the water in the tunnel.

[Rabid]

My concern would be, how many young boys saw him go by, or saw the video, and are now thinking of jumping in on an inner-tube or raft during the next flood?
Dead kids are fished out of our drainage ditches every year.
Setting a bad example.

A good parent should warn their children about the dangers that surround them in this world and instill fear of things like fast moving water.

Anyone care to answer this one?

AhPook?

Your asking a hypothetical but 1. Do not put your self in that situation by scouting or just not doing it. 2. If you do end up in that situation you do what you need to do. If you need a specific maneuver knowing that there is at least 6 feet of water below you a roll or a wet exit might do the trick.

[def90]

So since you sound like you know about kayaking def90 what's the proper kayak manuver to enter one of those tunnels when the water level is 18 inches off the roof instead of 8 ft.

Just curious. .

It's called scouting.. It's easy to do.

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[Irving]

My concern would be, how many young boys saw him go by, or saw the video, and are now thinking of jumping in on an inner-tube or raft during the next flood?
Dead kids are fished out of our drainage ditches every year.
Setting a bad example.

I must be one of those kids, because I thought that was awesome!

[Jumpstart]

Awesome video. Yes it was dangerous, but so is living. I guess maybe we should now ask that urban kayaking be outlawed, and or regulated and taxed by our government.

[J]

I'm inferring a 'gray area' consensus from the disagreement here. Which is that we don't seem to have enough info to judge this scenario properly. I agree with my personal inference.

We are making assumptions on either side as to what the persons skill level was and how much scouting they did before they ran the ditch.

The two ends of the spectrum:
A) They just looked at the water and said "Hey, cool, lets go for a ride!" Then jumped in. Seems pretty damn dumb to me.
B) They are experienced at kayaking, and scouted the full route before hand to ensure that there were no obstacles or sections beyond their ability. Seems at least somewhat reasonable to me.

Without knowing which scenario we have here, we cannot really pass accurate judgement.

And, with what little I know about kayaks, I'm inclined to guess that kayaking (or rafting) white water in a fast, turbulent river is likewise pretty damn dumb without scouting, but reasonably acceptable given proper training and competency and a thorough scouting of your water before launch. Of course it is a sport that is never without risk, but it is a pretty popular sport none-the-less.

Now, on to Ginsue's comment:

That is something certainly worth discussing. Intentionally putting yourself in a situation that could kill would-be rescuers is clearly a liability that the person must take, and should not be a burden on the rescue personnel. Like everything else though, if we want to talk about this objectively, where is the line? How is it defined? Climbing a 14er might be considered extreme to some. And a quick moving storm, which can roll in over a matter of minutes on a BAD day, is certainly deadly up there. There are no trees, people are the tallest thing around on the top of the peak and lightning likes tall things. Should someone who breaks an ankle up there be given the same treatment as someone who kayaks down a drainage ditch? I'm sure there are plenty of 'blue' voters that think that USPSA multigun is pretty extreme, and that being near the range is a hazard to anyone. I don't agree, but you are kidding yourself if you think that will NEVER be proposed by the likes of Rhonda or her 'D' pals if we start an extreme sport / risky rescue law. I don't know the answer, I'm just proposing the hypotheticals for illustration and discussion. Perhaps collectively we can at least postulate a reasonable line.

[def90]

Simply eating your favorite eggs and bacon with biscuits and gravy everyday could be posing a threat to 1st responders. How many people die suddenly when their hearts blow out due to poor health/lifestlye choices every year? How many kayakers die every year? Having your heart explode while you are driving 65 down I25 puts 1st responders at just as much if not more risk than this guy did. The 1st responder has t drive at high speeds through traffic to respond, then they need to stand on a highway full of distracted drivers and the drive at high speed once again to the hospital. Pretty much all kayak deaths in colorado become recovery operations where the search is called off until the waters lower. I'd be willing to guess that statistically the biscuits and gravy guy is a bigger hazard to those around them.

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[cstone]

I've seen the light. I saw those people stuck on that roller coaster for hours till the fire department could rescue them.

Kids...Disney is out. Too damn dangerous!

P.S. Life is 100% fatal. There should be a law against it!

[Colorado_Outback]

LOL. You guys are ridiculous.