Malaysian Flight Down Over Ukraine?

[Ridge]

Do you speak Russian?

This guy on another forum I'm on does...

I tried my best to translate this transcript. I'm neither Russian, nor Ukrainian so excuse any mistakes if you are. The gist of it should be mostly correct. The audio sounds genuine, but then again who knows.

Bes: Group <Miner> just downed a plane over the village of Enakievo
Geranin: Where are the pilots? (I assume he means group Miner)
Bes: They went to look for and photograph the wreckage. It's smoking.
Geranin: When did this happen?
Bes: Around half an hour ago.
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Greek: Yes, Major.
Major: So, it was the Chernohinkie group that did it. Those Cossacks there at their post. The plane disintegrated in mid-air in the area of the Petropavlovka Mine. They've found the 200th corpse. Civilian.
Greek: So, what do you have there?
Major: We're certain it was civilians only.
Greek: Are there a lot of people there?
Major: Fuck.. The debris was falling in people's yards.
Greek: What kind of plane?
Major: I still don't know - I still haven't reached the main crashsite, only where the first bodies have fallen. There are remains of seats and people there.
Greek: Ok, any weapons?
Major: Not at all. Civilian items - medical supplies, towels, toilet paper.
Greek: Any documents?
Major: Yes. There's one of an Indonesian Student from the Thompson University.
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Kozitzin: The plane that was shot down in the Snezhogo - Tozera. It turned out it was a passenger plane. It fell in the Grabovo area - there's a sea of corpses there, women and children. Right now the Cossacks are looking it over.
Soldier: They said it was an An-26 on the TV - Ukrainian, transport, but they say it had "Malaysian Airlines" written on it! What was it doing over Ukraine?
Kozitzin: So they were bringing in spies. (They talk over each other). There is a war going on!

[SRG720]

Yeah? Its on the interwebs so it must be true, right? Pretty sophisticated hardware for a bunch of ragtag plumbers and car mechanics.

Why isn't anyone asking about all the missile systems the ukr army has in the area?

[SRG720]

Ridge, what's the source of these intercepts? Who provided them? Who stands to gain?

[SRG720]

I mean shit both the ukr govt and John McCain have already said Ukraine doesn't have those capabilities. Strange that they did have the capabilities in 2001 shooting down flight 1812...

[Aloha_Shooter]

Why are you so intent on deflecting blame from the Russophiles and Russian Army controllers in-country?

I would be highly surprised if you could put together an intercept with voice tracks matching the self-declared separatist Minister of Defense and a Russian Army officer. To be fair, I haven't seen voice print analysis on them but it would be sheer stupidity to provide the actual voice tracks (as the Ukrainians did) rather than just transcripts if simple analysis could show they were faked.

[SRG720]

John McCain of all people knows about Russian sam systems and can talk of them without a chip on his shoulder

[SRG720]

Yeah please. Its coming from Ukraine so it must be legit.

Their defense minister relays orders to his subordinates via Facebook and twitter for crying out loud

[Ridge]

Yeah? Its on the interwebs so it must be true, right? Pretty sophisticated hardware for a bunch of ragtag plumbers and car mechanics.

Why isn't anyone asking about all the missile systems the ukr army has in the area?

Again, they captured Ukrainian AA systems last month

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_0...allation-1561/

[SRG720]

Deflecting blame?

Has blame already been established beyond a reasonable doubt?

[ChunkyMonkey]

^ what proof do you have to contradict what's presented so far. Mp net posts show some pictures of rebels buk system being rushed out of the area after the crash. Furthermore, rebels self claimed leader proudly posted that they shot down an aircraft assuming it's another Ukrainian an26, only to delete his post later on.

Just curious ... as many evidence point to Russia backed rebels.


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