MC gangs like NYC or Mad Max in CO?

[Clint45]

20-1 odds the "innocent visiting family" was road raging or driving in a dangerously careless manner. A traditional MC is not going to randomly attack a motorist for sport. The article claims that the motorist was "prevented from passing them." That is usually done for safety reasons. Apparently, he was in a hurry, and the club's SUVs deliberately blocking him from passing the bikes was not enough of a clue for him to back off, and after a bike went down it seems things escalated.

[ThunderSquirrel]

20-1 odds the "innocent visiting family" was road raging or driving in a dangerously careless manner. A traditional MC is not going to randomly attack a motorist for sport. The article claims that the motorist was "prevented from passing them." That is usually done for safety reasons. Apparently, he was in a hurry, and the club's SUVs deliberately blocking him from passing the bikes was not enough of a clue for him to back off, and after a bike went down it seems things escalated.

Terrible argument. Since when do groups of people riding motorcycles get to enforce 'safety' on a public road. By purposely blocking someone in, you are going to do nothing but escalate the situation, period. And there is nothing 'safe' about that.

[Great-Kazoo]

Terrible argument. Since when do groups of people riding motorcycles get to enforce 'safety' on a public road. By purposely blocking someone in, you are going to do nothing but escalate the situation, period. And there is nothing 'safe' about that.

When the asshole in the vehicle has already swerved back in to the motorcycles once, avoiding a head on with a camper in the opposite lane. Nearly hitting someone on a bike, yet failing to stop for the 3 who laid theirs down so they would not be side swiped by the suv.
You call it what you want. i call it preventing a potential fatality.

[driver]

Push me shove you.......

[Great-Kazoo]

Push me shove you.......

What, No Compromise ?

[driver]

Says who?

[68Charger]

That's not a Biker Gang, by any means. As would be a few guys with guns, being a white supremacist militia.
In today's era of instant gratification via the web, You never know who is watching. With that being said, flash back 40 years, some one intentionally tried to run some one off the road. It was handled on the spot.

They are on motorcycles, and intimidating like a gang.. Should we call them faeries?

Terrible argument. Since when do groups of people riding motorcycles get to enforce 'safety' on a public road. By purposely blocking someone in, you are going to do nothing but escalate the situation, period. And there is nothing 'safe' about that.

My point exactly... Somebody got pissed off, and escalated the situation... Acting like a gang of thugs...

When the asshole in the vehicle has already swerved back in to the motorcycles once, avoiding a head on with a camper in the opposite lane. Nearly hitting someone on a bike, yet failing to stop for the 3 who laid theirs down so they would not be side swiped by the suv.
You call it what you want. i call it preventing a potential fatality.

So you were there? ( I'm talking about the Colorado incident)

Regardless of how it started, not a good way to handle it... With a mob?

My point is, if this can then this ugly less than 18 miles outside Westcliffe, you're not safe anywhere from this kind of problem...

[Great-Kazoo]

They are on motorcycles, and intimidating like a gang.. Should we call them faeries?




My point exactly... Somebody got pissed off, and escalated the situation... Acting like a gang of thugs...


So you were there?


Regardless of how it started, not a good way to handle it... With a mob?

My point is, if this can then this ugly less than 18 miles outside Westcliffe, you're not safe anywhere from this kind of problem...

They're nothing but PUNKS.

I've been in a scenario similar, before.

None of us were there.
Based on personal experience ,as mentioned before, people in vehicles believe they can Squeeze in amongst a group of motorcycles, Because they don't want to get injured or crash. AND they ASSume they're in the right. See those flashing highway information signs saying .
LOOK TWICE MOTORCYCLES ARE EVERYWHERE. There's a reason for them. .

ANYONE who BELIEVES they are Safe, from big city problems, in rural America, need to reevaluate their security ops.

We've discussed this before. 99.9% of people interviewed, after a violent crime happened near them said. . "You'd like to think something like this, couldn't happen here". It does and will.
If anything, real rural areas are prime spots for the unexpected. People let their defense down, become complacent. Why because it's so far removed from large cities you don't see it coming.

[Ronin13]

They're nothing but PUNKS.

I've been in a scenario similar, before.

None of us were there.
Based on personal experience ,as mentioned before, people in vehicles believe they can Squeeze in amongst a group of motorcycles, Because they don't want to get injured or crash. AND they ASSume they're in the right. See those flashing highway information signs saying .
LOOK TWICE MOTORCYCLES ARE EVERYWHERE. There's a reason for them. .

ANYONE who BELIEVES they are Safe, from big city problems, in rural America, need to reevaluate their security ops.

We've discussed this before. 99.9% of people interviewed, after a violent crime happened near them said. . "You'd like to think something like this, couldn't happen here". It does and will.
If anything, real rural areas are prime spots for the unexpected. People let their defense down, become complacent. Why because it's so far removed from large cities you don't see it coming.

Well put.
Cages are the biggest danger on the road for anyone on two wheels. "Being invisible" has led me to almost taking a guy's side mirror off, cracked it nicely thanks to protected gloves. I can't speak for this specific instance, but I have been riding where car drivers are distracted and almost kill everyone in the immediate vicinity. In times like those it's quite prudent to give them a nudge in the safe direction by blocking them from doing more stupid.

[crays]

Please.
Gather your facts. The Valiants may be many things other than valiant, but they are not a violent, 1% crew hell bent on criminal intent. In my personal experience, the majority of the Valiants that I have any experience with are pretty mellow folks. What we likely have here is an incident of provocation, or at most, a specific chapter trying to live the hollywood inspired "outlaw biker" lifestyle. Educate yourselves on the actual tendencies of most supposed "outlaw bikers", or continue to condemn them, as The Left condemns us.

The many shall not be judged by the the few. (Hint here: this applies to our ilk.)

I personally know some worthless, POS biker types (some wannbe's, some full patch), but they by no means define the entire group. See any similarities to the misfortune of owning a firearm?? On the flip, I know very many benevolent, hard working, independent individuals who happen to live the biker lifestyle, whether club affiliated, or not.

Without mentioning specific, organized factions, there are several other "outlaw gangs" I could point you towards, but that does not seem prudent. I could give you color combinations that would help you identify some, if not most of them. But again, that would not be prudent. The worst of them have no interest in our great state for no other means than financial gain, and expansion of there perceived empire. Hell, some of them had no interest in establishing a presence here until one of their rival clubs did. There are some I avoid like the plague, but also many others that I have to have a specific and personal reason to dislike.

I believe there is an entire other thread about generalizations of populace.

Just my $.02