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    Grand Master Know It All crays's Avatar
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    Please.
    Gather your facts. The Valiants may be many things other than valiant, but they are not a violent, 1% crew hell bent on criminal intent. In my personal experience, the majority of the Valiants that I have any experience with are pretty mellow folks. What we likely have here is an incident of provocation, or at most, a specific chapter trying to live the hollywood inspired "outlaw biker" lifestyle. Educate yourselves on the actual tendencies of most supposed "outlaw bikers", or continue to condemn them, as The Left condemns us.

    The many shall not be judged by the the few. (Hint here: this applies to our ilk.)

    I personally know some worthless, POS biker types (some wannbe's, some full patch), but they by no means define the entire group. See any similarities to the misfortune of owning a firearm?? On the flip, I know very many benevolent, hard working, independent individuals who happen to live the biker lifestyle, whether club affiliated, or not.

    Without mentioning specific, organized factions, there are several other "outlaw gangs" I could point you towards, but that does not seem prudent. I could give you color combinations that would help you identify some, if not most of them. But again, that would not be prudent. The worst of them have no interest in our great state for no other means than financial gain, and expansion of there perceived empire. Hell, some of them had no interest in establishing a presence here until one of their rival clubs did. There are some I avoid like the plague, but also many others that I have to have a specific and personal reason to dislike.

    I believe there is an entire other thread about generalizations of populace.

    Just my $.02
    Last edited by crays; 07-17-2014 at 23:56.
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