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    I know you are upset about him backing out, I don't blame you for that, but I don't blame him either.

    The more paper work you make people fill out, the more you make yourself look like a business. The more you look like a business, the better chance you have of getting sued by some one if they hurt themselves.

    It sounds far fetched, I know, but it is something to consider.

    A bill of sale isn't that much paper work either, but once people start wanting to have copies of driver's licenses and stuff for their "records," then they start looking like a business. It's a thin line when paper work is involved.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    copied this thread here from the feedback forum.

    I should just delete the whole thing, but you whiney babies might cry about that.

    Feedback forum is just that, feedback.

    come here to GD if you want to piss and moan about stuff.

    check the Terms and Conditions thread if you have issues with what I've done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturtle View Post
    I know you are upset about him backing out, I don't blame you for that, but I don't blame him either.

    The more paper work you make people fill out, the more you make yourself look like a business. The more you look like a business, the better chance you have of getting sued by some one if they hurt themselves.

    It sounds far fetched, I know, but it is something to consider.

    A bill of sale isn't that much paper work either, but once people start wanting to have copies of driver's licenses and stuff for their "records," then they start looking like a business. It's a thin line when paper work is involved.
    100% agree.

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    Dr_Fwd I didn't know! lol

    You should've said something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK545Man View Post
    Dr_Fwd I didn't know! lol

    You should've said something.
    You see, I can't tell people "you do that/you do this".

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    If what your selling is a good deal, then I'm sure another buyer will step right up. Regardless, these sorts of threads cause me to mentally put the seller into the 'god what a whiner' list and mentally blacklist them from future deals.

    Just something to masticate on.

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    I always make a copy of someone's licence when I sell a gun privatley. Just so I can show the ATF should they ever show up at my house with gun trace data.

    Anyone who has a problem with it can fuck themselves. If you've got nothing to hide, then why would that be the back out factor?
    I spent my Obama Stimulus money on a GUN!

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    Do you also make a copy of your license and give it to the buyer?
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Why the hell should I do that? I'm selling the gun, not buying it. I agree with Birddog, it's for my own protection.

    I DO give them a bill of sale, stating who they bought it from and for how much. Bottom line, asking for a licence or other form of in state residency ID, is the law. No ID, NO GUN. Period.

    And for what it's worth, no person I've ever sold to has even has so much of a smidgen of a problem with me copying their licence.
    I spent my Obama Stimulus money on a GUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanek9freak View Post
    I always make a copy of someone's licence when I sell a gun privatley. Just so I can show the ATF should they ever show up at my house with gun trace data.

    Anyone who has a problem with it can fuck themselves. If you've got nothing to hide, then why would that be the back out factor?

    Because we should have to worry about it in the first place. Its not like you are meeting up with a gang member with a flag out his back pocket looking over his shoulder being sketchy.

    The law says you don't need it. You make yourself look like a gun dealer by keeping records. Say you bought a stripped lower 6 months ago for $100, you see it and get a bill of sale showing you sold it for $150. ATF comes to you, says this gun was used in a crime, we realize it was sold, but you sold it at a profit which is dealing without a license. You even have the paperwork to prove it. their case is easy, you pay the fines, possibly do some jail time over it and never get to own firearms again.

    On the other hand, no paperwork, say you sold it for what you bought it for, there was no proof of profit, you needed the money for rent..etc and there is nothing to be used against you.
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