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    House and Senate lawmakers are running up against an end-of-the-week August recess without a compromise on legislation addressing the border crisis -- potentially playing into the hands of President Obama as he weighs sweeping unilateral action on immigration.
    Speculation is widespread about what actions the Obama administration might take on its own, but advocates and lawmakers in touch with the administration tell The Associated Press that the White House is making plans to act to grant work permits to potentially millions of immigrants who are in this country illegally.
    The claims have drawn urgent warnings from Republican lawmakers, including Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., who said such an "amnesty" would be a "permanent stain" on Obama's presidency. Sessions on Monday urged the president to "pull back."
    But inaction in Congress on the surge of illegal immigrants along the southern border could fuel Obama's claims that he is compelled to address the issue from the Executive Branch -- even if Republicans say amnesty-style measures could inflame the problem.
    While Congress weighs Obama's request for $3.7 billion to deal with the crisis of unaccompanied youths, Senate Democrats are proceeding with their own $2.5 billion bill -- while House Republicans are moving on a significantly scaled-back plan that comes in well under a billion dollars. The House Republican measure would cost $659 million for the remainder of the fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30. The bill includes several policy changes, including using the National Guard to assist the Border Patrol, changing a 2008 law that lawmakers say has made it harder to process illegal immigrant minors from Central America, and authorizing additional judges to hear the cases.
    The House may be able to advance their bill in time to send something to the Senate on Thursday, right before the August recess.
    The Senate, meanwhile, is trying to move forward on its own bill. But due to the trickiness of Senate procedure, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid might still be running through procedural hoops come Friday.
    Without any compromise bill, both sides of the aisle will be poised for a rhetorical battle during the August recess.
    Meanwhile, the Obama administration is weighing its own actions.
    White House officials led by Domestic Policy Council Director Cecilia Munoz and White House Counsel Neil Eggleston, along with Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, have been working to chart a plan on executive actions Obama could take, hosting frequent meetings with interest groups and listening to recommendations from immigration advocates, law enforcement officials, religious leaders, Hispanic lawmakers and others.
    Advocates and lawmakers who were in separate meetings Friday said that administration officials are weighing a range of options including reforms to the deportation system and ways to grant relief from deportation to targeted populations in the country, likely by expanding Obama's two-year-old directive that granted work permits to certain immigrants brought here illegally as youths. That program, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, has been extended to more than 500,000 immigrants so far.
    Advocates would like to see deferred action made available to anyone who would have been eligible for eventual citizenship under a comprehensive immigration bill the Senate passed last year, which would be around 9 million people. But Obama told them in a meeting a month ago to "right-size" expectations, even as he pledged to be aggressive in steps he does take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    It should be legal nationwide to shoot, on sight, anyone who has MS-13 tattooed on them.
    That's why they're here. The violence is so bad in their country of origin. Unfortunately The people / .gov entities supporting blanket invasion, have no clue. Or could care less. Besides 40K across the border, allows those limousine liberals time to pick through the herd, allowing only the most tear jerker kids to be featured.

    Slap 2-3 pics of the real problem on the air waves. Hell Charlie Rangel be there, with his Korean Issued Garand.,
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    My dad was an illegal (retired principal engineer for a division of catepillar now,) and in my younger years as a poor boy I spent a lot of time living in that community (mostly hispanic, but a surprising number of Africans as well.) Never seemed overwhelmingly violent to me, living there, though of course there were gangs. For the most part they just seemed like people who wanted to come here to work and live quiet lives. Hard to be angry at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    My dad was an illegal (retired principal engineer for a division of catepillar now,) and in my younger years as a poor boy I spent a lot of time living in that community (mostly hispanic, but a surprising number of Africans as well.) Never seemed overwhelmingly violent to me, living there, though of course there were gangs. For the most part they just seemed like people who wanted to come here to work and live quiet lives. Hard to be angry at that.
    Wow, slacking a bit aren't you? Doesn't normally take you this long to defend illegal immigrants. I know of plenty of folks who also committed crimes from theft, to rape, to murder, but their offspring aren't defending or condoning it. Illegal is illegal....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    My dad was an illegal (retired principal engineer for a division of catepillar now,) and in my younger years as a poor boy I spent a lot of time living in that community (mostly hispanic, but a surprising number of Africans as well.) Never seemed overwhelmingly violent to me, living there, though of course there were gangs. For the most part they just seemed like people who wanted to come here to work and live quiet lives. Hard to be angry at that.
    Fortunately, you are the anchor baby, and dont know what it feels like to be a legal immigrant and only to be put in the back of the line of the illegals. I despise them. If I could make it here legally and was able to bring my lil bro and parents here legally. ANYONE should be able to.

    If the illegals want shortcut, at least dont sacrifice those who do it legally. Obama is doing just that.
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    It's a bit silly to say "illegal is illegal." Not all laws are just, not all laws ought to be obeyed. There's plenty of American history behind that. It was illegal for blacks to not give up seats to white people at a point in history not too long ago, and I don't think anyone would say today that "illegal is illegal" and no one should have violated those laws out of respect for the rule of law.

    If you're mad that people are coming over who aren't like you, that's fine and I guess we can talk about it, but I'm not impressed with "its against the law and therefore is automatically bad." Its kind of a cop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    It's a bit silly to say "illegal is illegal." Not all laws are just, not all laws ought to be obeyed. There's plenty of American history behind that. It was illegal for blacks to not give up seats to white people at a point in history not too long ago, and I don't think anyone would say today that "illegal is illegal" and no one should have violated those laws out of respect for the rule of law.

    If you're mad that people are coming over who aren't like you, that's fine and I guess we can talk about it, but I'm not impressed with "its against the law and therefore is automatically bad." Its kind of a cop out.
    By your logic, if I robbed a bank to give money to poor people I should be absolved of the crime of bank robbery because my intentions were good.

    Illegals are criminals, including your father, the only reason you're perceived to be legal is by the mistaken idea that the 14th applies to you which it does not therefore you're here illegally too. You should go back to whatever 3rd world shithole your father came from instead shitting all over this country and our constitution.

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