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    My vote would be for a Subaru of some sort - Outback or Forester. I have owned two in my lifetime and they have all been good cars. The oil consumption deal, well Subaru has been known to buy parts from the lowest bidder at times but they usually make good on isues.
    That is why you stay away from the 2.2l from the late 90's early 2000 models.
    If that is not fancy enough buy a Toyota - can't go wrong there but you are going to be paying a lot more for the name.

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    I gotta go with sniper and hghclss... My wife has a 2012 Traverse. Talk about room inside. Real seating for 8 adults. Or fold the seats down for enough room for the in-laws to live in for a week. She drives up and down the hill daily from Bailey to work in Denver and averages 22 - 23 mpg and it's AWD. Paid maintenance for the first two years. Quietest car I've been in...ever. She's very happy with it and she's a hard-core Subaru convert. The Traverse/Enclave/Acadia consistently rank near the top in owner satisfaction surveys. Only downside is the 12 was subject to seatbelt and airbag recalls. Waiting on parts for the seatbelt, airbag is done and took less than 1/2 hour. Elway gave her some service freebies for having to come in a second time for the recalls. And it's very inexpensive to insure for some reason. High end full coverage with $100 deductibles is less than $450 year. I think it's the least expensive car we've ever insured.

    She didn't like the 12 Equinox because the seat fabric looked like a hooker wearing fishnets blew up inside it. The newer ones have very nice interior schemes but are smaller inside, of course, than the Traverse.

    She also liked the Kia Sorento but couldn't find one with a V6.

    Lots of good incentives and financing deals on the 14s now, too.
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    Thanks for all of the replies.

    Looks like I'll be busy shopping around this weekend.

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    Geländewagen! For no other reason than it's fun to say (well they're also pretty awesome vehicles).
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    I went looking for trucks this past weekend and car prices are NOT what they used to be. Good luck getting a new Toyota under 30k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I hadn't thought about an Outback but the Forester with the turbo might be something we'll look at.
    Subarus had way too many head gasket issues over a very long period of time. I guess it is suppose to be better now, but their failure rate is unacceptable if you ask me, but I guess people look past it when the manufacturer is Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I went looking for trucks this past weekend and car prices are NOT what they used to be. Good luck getting a new Toyota under 30k.
    Yeah. I've started doing a little research. There are new 4runners out there in the 32K to 34K range. Just need to see how well equipped they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    I'm probably going to steer clear or GM and Ford products. Nothing wrong with their trucks but I'm not a huge fan of anything else they build. Not really a fan of the Chrysler stuff either but I like the size and some of the features on the ones I listed above.
    If you change your mind give me a ring bc my buddy is the sales manager at one of the local Buick/gmc dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico View Post
    If you change your mind give me a ring bc my buddy is the sales manager at one of the local Buick/gmc dealers.
    Thanks. I'll definitely keep that in mind.

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    My uncle just bought a 2013 Buick Enclave at SUSS for $30,000. It had 18,000 mi and was from a rental company that sells off after a year.

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