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    Well said.

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    I know that they are "competitions" but in my personal experience, there isn't pressure to perform at a competition, unless that's what you want. I know it sounds weird for me to suggest forgoing range time and just jumping into competitions, but I'm confident that you'll find no better way to improve your skills and shoot with like minded people. Not for the price and time anyway. The matches ARE the practice by the way. Don't start down the path of "I'm going to practice a bit more before I look into it." Not having shot a match, there isn't really a way to practice for it, especially at ranges where you can't even draw from your holster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I need to clarify. I realize that things are different out here, than they are out there, but here, you don't need to be a member of the range to shoot at the local IDPA, USPSA, IPSC, etc matches.
    I'm not suggesting that you find a range to join that hosts the matches, I'm suggesting that you abandon the idea of range time altogether in lieu of just competing at matches. You will learn things, and your skills will improve MUCH faster just shooting matches, than it will just "going to the range."

    I know that they are "competitions" but in my personal experience, there isn't pressure to perform at a competition, unless that's what you want. I know it sounds weird for me to suggest forgoing range time and just jumping into competitions, but I'm confident that you'll find no better way to improve your skills and shoot with like minded people. Not for the price and time anyway. The matches ARE the practice by the way. Don't start down the path of "I'm going to practice a bit more before I look into it." Not having shot a match, there isn't really a way to practice for it, especially at ranges where you can't even draw from your holster.

    Anyway, good luck. Hope you find something that works for you.
    Thank you!

    Coming from an athletic and competitive background I would have never thought of entering a competition without at least 2 years of serious training and having proved myself to myself.

    That is a whole new way of looking at it and it makes sense!

    I will do some research it and I want to try.

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Very well put. Out here as in most places you do not need to be a member of the range to compete. Unsure why you ask about CO ranges while you're in Fla? You will find more info and places to shoot,on a Florida specific gun forum.

    Not that you are unwelcome here. Everyone who owns a gun is welcome. Try keeping the politics low if you're a D or O supporter (no more needs saying). However in a state specific forum you will have ideas about meet n greets. Latest shooting events etc.


    http://floridagunsforum.com/
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    I was asking about the range experience here because it is always interesting to me to know what is happening beyond my immediate bubble.

    If also I happen to make friends it nice to be able to meet people face to face when I travel.

    I was primarily mostly curious if this trend here in Florida was exclusive to Fl.

    Thank you for the links - I will check them out.
    I actually found your site through a member here that is also at HKPRO.

    I did not feel very welcome there so I joined here

    And regarding supporting D & O's I think you can already tell from my posts I do not support weakness and co-dependency.

    Thank you again for those links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighCaliber View Post
    Coming from an athletic and competitive background I would have never thought of entering a competition without at least 2 years of serious training and having proved myself to myself.

    That is a whole new way of looking at it and it makes sense!
    I have learned to shoot over the years by just doing competitions. If you want advise, there will be 50 people around willing to give it to you. If you don't, they won't.
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    Ooooook. I'm going to tread lightly, because I enjoy going to matches from time to time... but to play Devil's advocate, I normally don't have 6 hours to dedicate to a match so I can fire 150 rounds. I can do that in an hour in the national forest, and practice whatever drills I want. Even at places like South site.

    Either way you do run and gun, it will improve your skills. As to the Guns and Blammo article (I never saw it), I think there are some elements of IPSC / USPSA that are bad form. Some examples that come to mind - almost zero emphasis on using cover, leaving cover with an unloaded weapon to get a better time on the stage (i.e. reload on the run in the open), and standing in / shooting from doorways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Steve View Post
    Ooooook. I'm going to tread lightly, because I enjoy going to matches from time to time... but to play Devil's advocate, I normally don't have 6 hours to dedicate to a match so I can fire 150 rounds. I can do that in an hour in the national forest, and practice whatever drills I want. Even at places like South site.

    Either way you do run and gun, it will improve your skills. As to the Guns and Blammo article (I never saw it), I think there are some elements of IPSC / USPSA that are bad form. Some examples that come to mind - almost zero emphasis on using cover, leaving cover with an unloaded weapon to get a better time on the stage (i.e. reload on the run in the open), and standing in / shooting from doorways.
    Flourdah has very few open spots to pull over and shoot from. Something we have more a decent amount of, for now.
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    A National Forest is another good idea.

    Husband and I are investigating the local laws into that one.

    We just found ( internet ) a National Forest in Lakeland with a designated area for shooting.
    Though I think I would be safer if finding a spot in the middle of nowwhere in the forest.

    So will look into it also.

    A mixture of competition, National Forest and Hog hunting might be more satisfying then obeying indoor range rules.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Steve View Post
    Ooooook. I'm going to tread lightly, because I enjoy going to matches from time to time... but to play Devil's advocate, I normally don't have 6 hours to dedicate to a match so I can fire 150 rounds. I can do that in an hour in the national forest, and practice whatever drills I want. Even at places like South site.

    Either way you do run and gun, it will improve your skills. As to the Guns and Blammo article (I never saw it), I think there are some elements of IPSC / USPSA that are bad form. Some examples that come to mind - almost zero emphasis on using cover, leaving cover with an unloaded weapon to get a better time on the stage (i.e. reload on the run in the open), and standing in / shooting from doorways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    You get out of it what you put in it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    You're good at writing.
    Im a hack. I have a really good editor or two...
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    and I'm crazy about my tea at night

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