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    Default new info out on last years arapahoe shooting

    http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/te...-a-high-threat

    my favorite part was what one parent said:
    "There's a fine line between privacy issues and the well-being of the community," she said. "Is the privacy of one student worth the safety of 2,000?"

    looks like we found the next obama.

    http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...x5j0UrDAHdrwnA

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    I don't get the connection. Here we had a kid threaten to kill a coach because he got demoted from being captain of the debate team. He should of faced criminal charges. After being confronted by the school he allegedly wasn't remorseful and refused to apologize to the coach. Sounds like the school caved and let him go back without apologizing.

    Littleton Public Schools Superintendent Scott Murphy refused to comment on the documents this week, saying it is district policy not to comment on individual student disciplinary cases.Lori Horn, whose children recently graduated from Arapahoe High School, said she's frustrated that school leaders have not answered parents' questions.
    "There's a fine line between privacy issues and the well-being of the community," she said. "Is the privacy of one student worth the safety of 2,000?"
    Sounds like the school owes the parents an explanation. It's time to start treating young men and women as such and quit handling them with kid gloves. You shouldn't be allowed to issue death threats without any real repercussions. Thank God I have the option to send my children to a private school.
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    Schools cave in to everything. My first year of teaching (4 years ago) I scolded an Assistant Pricipal for doing something similar to this. I had a student threaten me on Facebook. It took the school weeks to "gather information and research the case" even through I had a screen shot of the quote from one of my students who knew the kid. Yes slightly different circumstances than AHS, but my case and other instances I have seen during my brief 4 years teaching have demonstrated that schools need real help dealing with these issues. I am appalled with the response schools have to emergencies. Every suggestion I made was scoffed at because of "100 years of tradition unimpeded by progress" that schools live by. They are getting better but very slow to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomerhc9 View Post
    http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/te...-a-high-threat

    my favorite part was what one parent said:
    "There's a fine line between privacy issues and the well-being of the community," she said. "Is the privacy of one student worth the safety of 2,000?"

    looks like we found the next obama

    http://www.google.com/url?url=http:/...x5j0UrDAHdrwnA
    LOL - you'll quickly learn that just because folks on here like guns doesn't mean that many don't otherwise hold the same view and embrace the same restrictions to freedom as the left (OC anyone?). Some may recognize you are speaking to the greater issue of calls to violate/reduce individual privacy based on the actions of a single bad apple though most will not grasp it beyond the circumstances of this case. This is just a gun forum, don't expect the same commonality of views regarding any other topic.

    It's possible there is room for improvement in the procedure the school followed and that should certainly be scrutinized however to the question

    Is the privacy of one student worth the safety of 2,000?
    The answer is "yes, yes it is." because it's not the privacy of one [crazy] student but the privacy of all at stake. Fry the bastard, leave privacy rights alone though it's understandably difficult to perceive the bigger picture gripped by the emotion of the event. It's interesting (but not surprising) that "Ms. Horn's" children have graduated and would be unaffected by the action she demands.

    I agree it's time all men and women were held fully accountable for their actions, too often a label of "child" or "official" is attached to shield individuals from the repercussions of their actions.

    It's sad and unfortunate that evil will find a way or that crazy doesn't usually seem that crazy but in the end it's still the individual and no atrocity justifies any infringement to the sanctity of individual rights. You simply can't trade liberty for security no matter how noble the intent, you lose the one but gain only an illusion of the other. Rights are seldom lost with a sweeping grand gesture but the slow insidious "common sense" nibbling at the edge that ultimately results in benevolent servitude.

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    Whistler.... Well stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Whistler.... Well stated.
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    So they'll get all bent out of shape over an Eagle Scout who left a pocket knife in his truck but a guy who issues a death threat is deemed "not a high threat" and allowed back to school a week later? The Left are so inconsistent they couldn't walk a straight line if you put walls up around the route.

    In a way, I'm glad I don't have kids because I'd have to think long and hard about the pros and cons of sending them to what are laughingly referred to as "schools" these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Whistler.... Well stated.
    My thoughts exactly! Holy cow, everything Whistler just said proves that old Benjamin Franklin quote is still a great line.
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    I guess I'm just dense. What rights to privacy did that punk have after he made a death threat? What am I missing? Honest question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSS View Post
    I guess I'm just dense. What rights to privacy did that punk have after he made a death threat? What am I missing? Honest question.
    The article mentions that the report omitted information on why they reasoned that he wasn't a high level threat.

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