[QUOTE=Whistler;1699735]Bailey while that may be true of you and some others I disagree it's the overwhelming attitude expressed here and many gun forums. It's a position shared by some who believe as you do and most who support onerous restrictions, "I believe in the 2nd Amendment but..." I think it's important to recognize that some like guns but not gun rights, support restrictions, licensing, minimum training, etc. and generally believe most [other] people shouldn't be allowed to carry. Hell I've seen folks on here propose voting rights be confined exclusively to land owners! "Good for me but not for thee" is not something I'm okay with.
I think you're well aware we're on the same side and are disagreeing on the details.QUOTE]

Whistler, my apologies. I was referencing the big picture in my OP, but a lot of people didn't get my reference, and applied the responses to the small picture(the article). and Your response was about the big picture, and I didn't see the connotations it had for the big picture.
This was just mixed signals, and my mistake. Sorry about that.
I forgot about the people wanting stricter licensing and minimum training for ccw and stuff like that. I think we need to really push how stupid the anti's are by using their tactics against them. suggest stuff that will never go through. Every car in order to be licensed needs to have a minimum of 4 airbags, and antilock brakes, and must also be a gross poluter. or before a bank will approve a loan, you have to prove that you aren't a terrorist or a politician. The stupider the better, give them lots of stupid little proposals to fight us over, and then keep trying to add to them.
They would be so busy fighting stupid stuff we care nothing about, they would splinter their own ranks for us.