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    Keep using the sights but slow it down. Don't rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Keep using the sights but slow it down. Don't rush.
    I've done a lot of coaching, and "slow down" is the worst advice you can give to any shooter.

    You can only really work on one thing at a time. If "slowing down" is that one thing, you'll make all the same mistakes but slower.

    But the advice isn't that far off. You need to figure out what you want to work on to solve your problem -- perhaps a better sight picture, perhaps a better trigger press.

    Realize that working on something like that will CAUSE you to slow down. Allow it to happen. Slowing down becomes a side effect of solving the problem, not the goal.

    Note the difference -- the object of your exercise is to solve a problem. As a side effect you allow yourself to slow down to solve that problem, versus slowing down being the object of the exercise.

    Don't clutter your mind with "slow down". Focus (pun intended) on "better sight picture", "better trigger press", "better follow through" or whatever.

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    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    Don't clutter your mind with "slow down". Focus (pun intended) on "better sight picture", "better trigger press", "better follow through" or whatever.
    I did exactly that when I was practicing shooting from the draw at a stationary target. First few shots were off, and i realized I hadn't actually seen the front sight over the target. So before each draw, I was saying out loud "see the target", and all the rest of the shots were much better, and didn't really seem any slower.

    I tried the same thing on the moving target, and still had the issue, so I know I'm seeing the sight on the target, but guessing I'm rushing the trigger pull due to the moving target. Feels like I need to hurry more, even though I know I have plenty of time to get off 2 shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    ...trigger pull...
    Couple points:


    1. Many people benefit from thinking trigger press rather than pull or squeeze.
    2. If you got a friend willing to help, do some ball and dummy drills. You're probably pulling the gun down before the shot in a misguided attempt to recover from the recoil for a faster second shot. Big difference between pre-ignition-push and post-ignition-push.
    3. An alternative in this case to ball and dummy is to back off to only one shot, trap the trigger with a very deliberate follow through and see what happens. Perhaps without the pressure of a second shot and not worrying about getting back on target quickly will bring that first shot back up, at which point you know what the problem is (yanking the gun down in an attempt to get back on target quickly).


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    Ps. Ball and dummy IMHO Is one of the very best drills for determining problems because typically the shooter sees the problem for themselves and the "coach" needs not say anything
    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    I've done a lot of coaching, and "slow down" is the worst advice you can give to any shooter.

    You can only really work on one thing at a time. If "slowing down" is that one thing, you'll make all the same mistakes but slower.

    But the advice isn't that far off. You need to figure out what you want to work on to solve your problem -- perhaps a better sight picture, perhaps a better trigger press.

    Realize that working on something like that will CAUSE you to slow down. Allow it to happen. Slowing down becomes a side effect of solving the problem, not the goal.

    Note the difference -- the object of your exercise is to solve a problem. As a side effect you allow yourself to slow down to solve that problem, versus slowing down being the object of the exercise.

    Don't clutter your mind with "slow down". Focus (pun intended) on "better sight picture", "better trigger press", "better follow through" or whatever.

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    I've found from my day or 2 as an instructor that most shooters rush everything when engaging a moving target. Since I cannot see any of his fundamentals, working on slowing everything down is a start for the shooter to see if there are any issues with the fundamentals. The phrase "slow is smooth, smooth is fast" comes into play here as usually fundamentals are usually solid before a shooter attempts moving targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    I've found from my day or 2 as an instructor that most shooters rush everything when engaging a moving target. Since I cannot see any of his fundamentals, working on slowing everything down is a start for the shooter to see if there are any issues with the fundamentals. The phrase "slow is smooth, smooth is fast" comes into play here as usually fundamentals are usually solid before a shooter attempts moving targets.
    Don't disagree with this at all, because you're making the shooter slow down in order to help you diagnose the problem -- you're not using "slow down" as a solution to the problem. That's my point. Never offer "slow down" as a solution, it fixes nothing on its own.

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    Last edited by O2HeN2; 09-15-2014 at 21:20.
    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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