Anybody ever live in Phoenix?

[Doc45]

Arizona seems to like guns.

Oh hell yes lol! Heirloom Precision and Gunsite just to get you started.

Pisses off my anti brother every time I visit and take 2 days just going around to all the gun shops hah! He's a golf addict and I give him crap all the time about what great ranges those courses would make. He lives in Ahwatukee btw, nice area.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Golf? Complete waste of a shooting range.

I don't disagree with Hoser very often but golf is just shooting with a larger caliber and no optics. Same fundamentals of weight balance and follow-through, knowing how to apply Kentucky windage, etc. Plus, most women's golf outfits are much easier on the eyes than their shooting outfits -- and there are more women willing to go golfing than shooting.

EDIT: To answer the OP, golf is no reason to move to Phoenix. It's too damned hot down there. There's a reason so many courses offer $5 rounds at lunch time -- sane people don't hit the links at temperatures over 110F. I wouldn't go golfing there unless I could be sure I'd finish the round before 0900.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

2 biggest issues, outside the HEAT that kept us away. ILLEGALS (bangers, and low life spectrum of criminal element) Ongoing influx of illegals AND WATER. We even took northern Az off the list due to the issues mentioned. The politics while semi red, ae not in line with us.

Beat me to it, water seems to be a growing problem for that area. My wife and I had thought about Flagstaff as a place to move, and illegals were always a concern, but with the new water arguments going on we're reconsidering.

Cadillac Desert is a dry (no pun intended) but very worthwhile read.
My parents are down there, and I've had the water discussion with my dad several times. He is in a gated development way TF out by lake pleasant. "Our well is tested for 100 years." Uhh…remember that straw thing from "There will be blood?" How do you know that isn't the case with your well? More: Even if your well is fine, Phoenix might not be and how do you think that town is going to go when they run dry?
What is worse is that while you Western Slope suckers are on water restrictions, his neighborhood has (I kid you not) water features all over the golf course throwing water way up into the air. Never to land again. (Yes, I understand - never to land in AZ again. Better?) I'm not an environmentalist by any stretch of the imagination, but it is unbelievable waste for the sake of waste. But hey, it draws PGA events. Whoopie.

It is going to go Blue at some point due to illegals.


Having said that, I do love to visit, I like the heat, and love me some Spring Training.

[n8tive97]

Grew up in Gilbert. Check it out. Great area. However it is freaking hot!

[beast556]

Not sure what parts of Phoenix some of you are staying in. I got family there and all I see when we go there is mexicans and meth heads. It is also hot as shit. The mountain town are the only tolerable places to live in AZ unless you like blistering heat.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Thanks for all of the advice everyone. Not sure what we are going to do yet. I like the idea of a fresh start, but both my wife and I are CO natives and both of our families are all still here. We're thinking about going to visit Phoenix at the end of October to see what the feel of the area is. For those of you who lived there, what are some good spots to check out and where should we avoid?

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Thanks for all of the advice everyone. Not sure what we are going to do yet. I like the idea of a fresh start, but both my wife and I are CO natives and both of our families are all still here. We're thinking about going to visit Phoenix at the end of October to see what the feel of the area is. For those of you who lived there, what are some good spots to check out and where should we avoid?

This is SO dependent on where work is. $0.02
Phoenix is huge in terms of sprawl. By highway, going from my parents (extreme NW side) to my grandparents (extreme E/SE side) was 90 minutes or so.
There are nice 'burbs all over, though. Given that my parents are W valley (Peoria by address, but N and W of Sun City even) and sort of W of Ben Avery, I thought parts of Glendale and Surprise were nice.

When I was out there this spring for the marathon, we were maybe central/north Scottsdale and parts of that were nice, if not older. This wasn't too far from where the Rox train now.
However, if I worked in downtown Phoenix, I doubt I could live in any of those places with the commute.

[esaabye]

I like the anthem and coal crewk areas, just north and up the hill from Ben Avery. Great place to rent a vacation home as well.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Anthem looked like a great little town (if not really far away too), but I thought they were having tons of problems with home foundations. (?)