All those bombs/fuel cost money. And it's being wasted on peons. (not to mention putting any of US pilots/crews/ground-assets in danger)
ISIS/ISIL are a bunch of worthless savages that should be atomized, but they're just so replaceable that it's ak-wielding-whackamole all over again. No matter how many of those dudes you jdam/hellfire/20-30mm from above, **they're** just going to give another dumb muslim his rifle and resume this BS. So take off the gloves and go after the **they're** aka the financiers. I have no doubt that our Gov knows exactly who is giving these bitches the money & supplies to wage their terror: it's saudi arabia, pakistan, etc. Give them 60 days to use their own weapons to destroy ISIS. If they do not, then bomb them. Destroy their palaces and kill their families, I don't care. Send a clear message that this shit ends now.
Sand pounders will always pound sand, but they're dangerous when they're given millions of dollars by dickhead sheiks hiding behind fancy desks. Getting back to reality, I know that attacking entire states such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan would just be a nightmare for the political and economic world and definitely just fuck the world when it comes to oil import/export (at least in SA's case). That's fine. But don't put American lives on the line, then go meet prince abdullah in his kingdom's falcon-palace for turkish coffee and take nice photo-ops and pretend our countries are buddy-buddy. Hurt them somehow. This whole game that they (congress, the executive, & the [world] media) play pretending that these arab countries aren't behind all this terrorism and ME strife is total BS that they should be put against the wall for.
I hope that the US stockpile of weapons/munitions is robust, and we're not wasting a whole crap load that might need to be used against a legitimate army (china, russia, iran, ie actual nation states and not dirty-butt-jamar) in the future. I've read some discouraging things about the state of Britain's fighting power (only 36 field-worthy tanks in their entire army?? Yes I know, tanks are hardly used now... until they're needed.)
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The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...
Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...
This is the one point of contention I have with Sen. Rand Paul... He's an isolationist who thinks that the 1930's mentality will work in 2014. Sorry, but that's just not the case. To everyone who thinks this is going to provoke ISIS to actually attack us, where have you been the last few weeks? You must have missed the ISIS video where they said they want to hoist their flag at the White House. They are a clear and present danger to the US, they are suspected to have agents within our own country currently, and you think that bombing their command and control in Syria is us poking them. Wake the fuck up! Bush predicted that if we pull out of Iraq too early (which we did, thanks Obama!) this exact thing would happen. Not only that, but they're trying to spread. Know the difference between ISIS and ISIL? The L in ISIL stands for the Levant. That's a historical area that includes Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Israel and Egypt. These guys aren't content with just a little territory, they want the whole world. One big Islamic Caliphate. Convert or die. They're motivated, they're trained, they're prepared, and they're getting $6M a week! So they certainly have the funding, motive and potentially means to strike us. It doesn't help that we have border security issues. Like it or not, we're at war with these people. Sitting back and letting them grow and build is simply not an option. Of course, I don't think Obama is doing enough and it might be too little too late to just stick with bombing. I feel that we shouldn't have pulled out of Iraq when we did, and I would be willing to bet that we'll have troops back in there before the end of this decade.
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This president will not allow US ground troops in Iraq under his watch. It would be a direct admission that he was wrong. His only hope is he can slap them down long enough to punt this "non-war" to the next POTUS and let that administration clean up the mess. Now if these guys slip one passed the goalie and get an attack on us stateside that will change things as everyone would know the POTUS was wrong right there.
Don't you love it when politics comes first before the safety and security of the country?
He already sent "several hundred" in June, more in August, and he just said he's sending 500 more. My buddy down at Ft. Carson is supposed to deploy to Kuwait next year - I'd bet Kuwait is not where they end up going.
ETA: BO's supporters do not give two shits, or even take notice when he contradicts himself. "Bushwar bad. Obamawar good."
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