bombing syria

[HoneyBadger]

This is the one point of contention I have with Sen. Rand Paul... He's an isolationist who thinks that the 1930's mentality will work in 2014. Sorry, but that's just not the case. To everyone who thinks this is going to provoke ISIS to actually attack us, where have you been the last few weeks? You must have missed the ISIS video where they said they want to hoist their flag at the White House. They are a clear and present danger to the US, they are suspected to have agents within our own country currently, and you think that bombing their command and control in Syria is us poking them. Wake the fuck up! Bush predicted that if we pull out of Iraq too early (which we did, thanks Obama!) this exact thing would happen. Not only that, but they're trying to spread. Know the difference between ISIS and ISIL? The L in ISIL stands for the Levant. That's a historical area that includes Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Israel and Egypt. These guys aren't content with just a little territory, they want the whole world. One big Islamic Caliphate. Convert or die. They're motivated, they're trained, they're prepared, and they're getting $6M a week! So they certainly have the funding, motive and potentially means to strike us. It doesn't help that we have border security issues. Like it or not, we're at war with these people. Sitting back and letting them grow and build is simply not an option. Of course, I don't think Obama is doing enough and it might be too little too late to just stick with bombing. I feel that we shouldn't have pulled out of Iraq when we did, and I would be willing to bet that we'll have troops back in there before the end of this decade.

I don't want to take this off topic, but Rand is not an isolationist. I guess you could look at it another way too: Would you rather deal with an economic collapse because we are fighting them now, or would you prefer to keep our TRILLIONS of dollars out of it and make our economy more survivable and robust? A strong economy can win any fight, but a weak one will surely lose.

The one big moral contention I have is this: Should we invest a lot of time and money fighting a civil war between a bunch of uncivilized goat-fuckers?

Relevant follow-up questions: Do we have a moral obligation to stop the genocide of Christians, Jews, gays, and other persecuted groups? Should we go "all-in" and do our best to eradicate them? (They have made it very clear that conquest is their goal and they claim to have no plans of stopping - If that is the case, then beheading a few reporters is childsplay compared to what is yet to come.) Can we justify military action? What level of military action? Does that jive with Just War theory? Can we afford to pay for and sustain military action? What will that do to our economy? What about the security of our homeland and our national interests? Is it worth it? Shouldn't we focus on a strong economy and fixing our domestic problems (political corruption, flawed economic policy, artificial racial tensions and class warfare, millions of illegal immigrants, Obamacare, etc... the list is too damn long to type out)? Are there bigger or more credible threats to our national security and the peaceful liberty of the American people (like some of the things I just listed)?