Beauprex part II. Just couldn't let it be

[Ridge]

One of the major sticking points on abortion is information- are you for or against informing women seeking an aborting getting more information?

Liberals are clearly AGAINST... just kill the little bastard and be done with it... EVERY attempt by the right to require ANY amount of education to potential abortionists (not sure if that's the right term), is greatly opposed.. information is BAD when you're dealing with an emotional woman that has been betrayed by the man she's slept with... or chooses this as a form of "birth control"

I'd rather see a system of support with options... the left would prefer a blanket "kill that POS".

This is how I see it, based on observations that I've attempted to do from a objective viewpoint...

whatever winds up as public policy is simply an indicator of the moral decay of society... I try not to judge people, but when a society has lead down an amoral path, the end is just a matter of time IMHO...

Conversely, there are 24 states who require the mother to see an ultrasound, which of course makes it harder for them to go with an abortion they might have been planning, because emotions.

[mcantar18c]

I saw my baby's heartbeat at 5 or 6 weeks. In my opinion, as soon as the egg is fertilized, it's a developing (living) human being. So the question for me isn't "when does life start," but rather "when is it ok to kill?"
For me, incest is justifiable, but that's about it.

[Ridge]

I saw my baby's heartbeat at 5 or 6 weeks. In my opinion, as soon as the egg is fertilized, it's a developing (living) human being. So the question for me isn't "when does life start," but rather "when is it ok to kill?"
For me, incest is justifiable, but that's about it.

And then you have the option to not have an abortion. The point is about options. Not everyone feels the same way.

[Gman]

On one side you have women of child-bearing age that might be concerned about their reproductive rights. That certainly isn't the majority. Although you'd get that impression from the left in the commercials with the incessant lamentations that the Republicans practically want to take your uterus away from you.

There are so many issues where our government is screwed up, we really don't need to get sidetracked by hot-button issues. Not much of what is being bantered back and forth is really a priority.

[Ridge]

Although you'd get that impression from the left in the commercials with the incessant lamentations that the Republicans practically want to take your uterus away from you.

Considering that being pro-life basically means taking a woman's uterus' rights away from them, it's hard to see otherwise.

[Gman]

Considering that being pro-life basically means taking a woman's uterus' rights away from them, it's hard to see otherwise.

By making that statement, the converse is if you're pro-abortion it basically means you're going to take a woman's unborn child out of their uterus.

That's a stupid statement and you're probably just saying it to keep the argument running. It's hard to see otherwise.

Personal beliefs don't equate to forcing your will on others.

[Ridge]

I'm not pro abortion. I'm pro CHOICE

There is no choice in pro life. It's an all out ban on abortion.

[cstone]

I'm Pro Choice. Choose to be responsible for your actions. It's called maturity.

Don't want to create children, then make other choices.

Some people want other people to bear the burden of their poor choices. I choose to defend the most helpless in our society.

But this really isn't about the life of the unborn to me. The governor's race is about whether we, the citizens of Colorado are happy with our current governor and look forward to what he has indicated he will do with another term in office or whether we would like to make a different choice and give another person a chance to be a better governor. It just isn't a difficult choice for me.

See, I said I was Pro Choice... I choose to send Hick packing.

[68Charger]

I'm not pro abortion. I'm pro CHOICE

There is no choice in pro life. It's an all out ban on abortion.

Typical liberal argument- go to the extreme.. yet you already said enough to make it clear you're against ANY level of education... because that's playing on her emotions...
you say you're about choices, but you don't want them to be EDUCATED choices... just get rid of the little parasite... I didn't like his father anyway.

Your actions (just like those of liberals) devalue life...

I'm actually ok with choice- that's even (at least somewhat) biblical...

Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 24 Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.

1 Corinthians 10:23-24

but what the left does is just plain criminal, and could be argued as racist- since far more abortions are performed on certain ethnic groups than "rich white folk"

And the line is- your right to chose does not include murder- killing me, my children... so where do you draw that line? at birth? my oldest daughter was born at an estimated 26 weeks (last week of the 2nd trimester), weighing 1Lb, 14oz.. she is perfectly healthy today, and 18 years old. Many liberals would have made it a crime to stop her mother from killing her.

you're choosing a side- evil is evil.. sometimes it disguises itself, but it is still evil.


ETA: NO governor elected will be able to overturn Roe vs Wade... so they cannot BAN abortion in Colorado. but the left would like to brainwash moderates to believe Beauprez can.

[MED]

Ridge


It is not my purpose to challenge you on the abortion issue. It really should be a separate discussion. However, I am challenging your view point on this election. When Bill Owens was governor, his views made no difference on the legality of abortion, and the outcome of this race will make no difference on the legality of abortion. It is a non-issue for this election. However, the 12 years of Lamb and the 12 years of Romer made a huge difference on the court system in this state. The Dems successfully changed the districting map in 2000 complete with gerrymandered districts, and upheld in the 2010 redistricting process. The change in districting set the state for complete left control and the passage of gun laws in 2013. The gun issue put Colorado front and center nationally. If Colorado lets Hickenlooper get away with his lies and actions, it will be disastrous for us. It means the left lost a few battles but won the war. Hickenlooper has little regard for people in this state as evidenced by his subversion during the highway 36 privatization and subsequent veto of the transparency bill. His continued use of non-bid contracts in OIT is also extremely alarming not to mention the Chucky Cheese killer. He needs to be removed from office, badly. If you don't like Beauprex, fine...vote him out in four years; but help get rid of Hickelooper. Hickenlooper is by far the most disastrous governor in this state's history, and he needs to go. If you listen to the state troopers that quit his security detail because of his actions and disrespectful words, you would get a pretty good picture of this man as a person.

Edit: I have a libertarian friend who feels pretty much the same as you and generally votes third party because he is one of the people of the mindset that wants to break the two party system. He is voting Beauprex for one purpose; to remove Hickenlooper from office. His words are this. "Hickenlooper's removal is the most important issue in this election, and there is only one way to do it."