Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
they are going for cheaper labor already. Obviously we are too expensive with illegals as it is....or the laws we have are terrible and not set up for businesses to thrive.
This is an interesting point. Considering that there were good-paying jobs for hard-working Americans with little in the way of education clear into the 70s, I'd like to see some more data on what happened. It seems like things took a very severe turn following the oil crunch of Carter's years, and the illegal influx wasn't far behind it. So fair play, this would be an interesting talking point for another thread.

Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
We survived post WWII without resorting to all the "crappy" jobs needing to be done by illegals.
The post WWII economic recovery was a substantially different macroeconomic environment than today's. Come on now.

Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
That is the heart of the liberal talking points.
NO illegals do the jobs that employers wont pay a legal American to do. Why pay an American a fair wage? They can pay an illegal less. .
If you have faith in companies that will pay an illegal less to suddenly do the right thing and hire a strong American work force once they left, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.