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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    67 - 68 - NO; I think gambling ruined Blackhawk and Central City for everyone except the people who made their millions off it, those used to be neat towns too visit, now I won't go near them.
    I'm glad to hear another NO here.

    Black Hawk and Central City were neat, historic towns that folks drove through and said "Oh, neat!" before gaming. There was virtually no job opportunities to be had. BH and CC were almost literally ghost towns. Gilpin County was one of the poorest and saddest counties in CO before gaming was passed. Now, not so much.

    I never went to Cripple Creek before gaming passed, so I have no clue about down there. I assume it was a similar situation.

    ETA: I guess the moral to my story is that many people benefited from gaming up here, not just the "millionaire" owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    I'm glad to hear another NO here.

    Black Hawk and Central City were neat, historic towns that folks drove through and said "Oh, neat!" before gaming. There was virtually no job opportunities to be had. BH and CC were almost literally ghost towns. Gilpin County was one of the poorest and saddest counties in CO before gaming was passed. Now, not so much.

    I never went to Cripple Creek before gaming passed, so I have no clue about down there. I assume it was a similar situation.

    ETA: I guess the moral to my story is that many people benefited from gaming up here, not just the "millionaire" owners.
    Yeah, I understand that too but I miss those old towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Yeah, I understand that too but I miss those old towns.
    mid week mc riding up to CC & bH for some bar /beverage hopping.
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    I'm really tired of hearing, it's for the children crap. The schools will see little to none of that money. My votes will be no, no, yes, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    67 - NO; this is just another futile attempt to end-run Roe v Wade, as abhorrent as abortion is abortion is the law of the land, let it go, the end
    68 - NO; I think gambling ruined Blackhawk and Central City for everyone except the people who made their millions off it, those used to be neat towns, now I won't go near them.
    Prop 104 - YES; anything involving public monies or policy needs to open to the public
    GMO - NO; just what we need, more government meddling in business

    Colorado Supreme Court

    Monica M Marquez - appointed by Ritter - do not retain
    Brian D. Boatright - appointed by Hickenlooper - do not retain
    Thank you for adding the judges to the discussion, i normally do not vote on them out of pure laziness to research them.

    As for amendment 68 the reason why the horse track was voted on in the first place was a promise to give the money to the school system, almost none of the money has made it there. If they had written it in the amendment that most, if not all, of the money has to go to the school system i would view it in a more positive light and if it said it would give all the money back to Colorado legal and tax paying citizens i would be knocking door to door for it. If amendment 64 said it gave the money back to tax payers in the state we would all be rich, talk about an economy boost.

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    I find it hard to believe that most people here don't want to know if they are eating GMO food?

    Just got to shake my head.......
    If it says it on the package already that is all you need to know. Because it is a semi free market that is one piece of advertising almost everyone that makes a GMO free product already labels that way. The only reason i want to vote yes on it is because the SCOTUS has made GMO company's above the law and it is a thorn in their backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    As for the taxes, I will not pay them, only those who want to gamble. Hopefully plenty of tourists on their way to or from the ski slopes. Its not a forced tax, like a sales tax or property tax increase, its an elective tax on a non-essential entertainment activity.
    So it's ok to put a sin tax on ammo then right? Or maybe put heavy taxes on ranges, they take up so much space and they're so noisy.
    It only affects this who choose to engage in a non-essential activity, won't affect ME at all.

    Or hey, let's ban those evil black assaulting guns with their high capacitor clips. Completely unnecessary. If you need that much to drop a deer you shouldn't be hunting, I do just fine with my granddaddy's .30-06. I say we ban them, it won't affect ME none just the people that choose to mess with them. It's fer da childrens!

    If that's your line of thinking, sorry but you're just as bad as the libs. Go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    I find it hard to believe that most people here don't want to know if they are eating GMO food?

    Just got to shake my head.......
    Really? I find it harder to believe some people say they weren't going to bother voting this year. Talk about things that make you shake your head...
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    Amendment 64: Definition of person and child
    Yes. It's going to fail, but I want to thumb my nose at the child death cult that Feminism and leftism have become.

    Amendment 68: Horse racetrack casino gambling
    No. It doesn't matter what the details are, we shouldn't amend Constitutions for specific businesses or industries. That's what the rest of the code is for. I would gladly support this if it wasn't altering the state Constitution.

    Prop 104: School Board meeting requirements
    Yes. as has been stated a dozen times, Public is public.

    Prop 105: Labeling of GMO foods
    No. This is going to sound ungodly rude but I don't care. 99.999% of the anti-GMO hysteria is outright stupidity driven by leftist hatred of Western Civilization, Capitalism, Technology and built on a foundation of Critical Theory of Marxism. Creating a costly and confusing labeling scheme designed not to inform the public, but to harm business is a big part of why this country is in such a mess. I know there are some here that think GMOs are the most dangerous thing since sliced gulten and Monsanto is the devil but I think y'all are just silly and all this law will do is harm Colorado farmers.


    El Paso County Question 1A to keep the $2 million the county over collected in taxes that is supposed to be refunded under TABOR to fund parks:
    No. I'm sick of the state ignoring TABOR and finding pretexts to over tax us and then keep the proceeds. I'm all for taking good care of the parks, but dammit stop wasting money in other areas and stop taking more than you're due.
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    [QUOTE=Rabid;1734585]Talk about it.
    Amendment 64: Definition of person and child
    This should be Amendment 67: It specifically addresses only the criminal code. See Brady Project as it relates to Heather Surovik and the drunk who hit her. I am inclined to vote yes on this one, and I rarely vote yes on constitutional changes.

    Amendment 68: Horse racetrack casino gambling
    Doesn't matter if I agree or don't agree; this shouldn't be in the state constitution.

    Prop 104: School Board meeting requirements
    Don't care: although I am biased with a complete disgust in public education.

    Prop 105: Labeling of GMO foods
    No: it is interstate commerce and should follow federal regs.
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    Foxtrot for Governor!

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    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

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