Well i guess its time to talk about what on the Ballot

[bryjcom]

If you already believe GMO to be bad for you, why do you need further intervention from the government to tell you what you already know?

Ummmmmm...... well. I currently don't know if I'm eating gmo or not.

And for the record I believe if there should be government intervention it should be at the state and local levels.

It's you guys that are worried about the federal interventions

[Irving]

I'm not worried about the Fed stuff. I hear what you're saying, and haven't really formed an opinion either way. I'd say that right now, if you want to know what is in something, there is nothing that is restricting you from finding out that information. At least nothing that will change after this law.

[bryjcom]

Not exactly... I can look at a label and all it will tell is the ingredients. It doesn't say whether its gmo or not.

All it really takes is an addition to the existing label that's already there.

That's really not that much to ask for...

I'm not worried about the Fed stuff. I hear what you're saying, and haven't really formed an opinion either way. I'd say that right now, if you want to know what is in something, there is nothing that is restricting you from finding out that information. At least nothing that will change after this law.

[Irving]

It's semantics at this point. The info is out there, you just want it to be located on the product so you can get the info at the point of purchase, rather than taking the time to pre-investigate everything. I completely understand what you want and why. I lean toward the free market idea that the producers who sells non-GMO stuff make sure to point it out.

Kind of like how we don't need a law that Vegans have to wear a t-shirt declaring that they are a Vegan, because that is already the first thing out of their damn mouths anyway.

[bryjcom]

Are you suggesting that I call every food producer that I may buy from at the store and ask if they use gmo?

[Irving]

Depends on how badly you want the info. You're really asking that a law be made that puts the info you seek in the location that you want. The info is out there already. Now that I think about it, someone probably HAS already called every producer and asked, so there is probably a list out there some where. If not, I bet that creating one and putting it online would make for a pretty popular website.

[bryjcom]

I guess we can do away with all labels on food and medications...... since you can find that info elsewhere and all......

[Irving]

Remember the time (every other year) there was panic buying of guns and supplies, and some retailers starting raising prices much higher, and much faster than others? A lot of people felt very strongly about those retailers, and wanted to know who they were, so they could avoid them. Being that our community really cared about that issue, we banded together to create a list of retailers that we didn't want to do business with.

I know you know all this, and I'm not trying to come across condescending or anything. I'm trying to debate a topic as logically and politely as I can by giving alternatives to the law.

[bryjcom]

I'm going to ignore that analogy due to it not relating to anything we're talking about and I want you to address the one I made in my last post.

Should we do away with food and medication labels, since we can find the information elsewhere?

[mcantar18c]

I'm going to ignore that analogy due to it not relating to anything we're talking about and I want you to address the one I made in my last post.

Should we do away with food and medication labels, since we can find the information elsewhere?

The current labels on food and medicine say what ingredients are in what you're buying. Not what ingredients are in the ingredients of what you're buying.

Are you in favor of forcing meat suppliers to list everything they feed the cow/pig/etc. and how it was killed on their package?