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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post

    Yes - I don't care where the money is promised to go. I have no problem with people gambling, and would rather have people come to Denver instead of Vegas to piss away their cash. Don't care that it's a Rhode island company, as opposed to Nevada or other state companies currently operating in the small towns.
    I agree with you on most of this, but it doesn't bother you to have an out of state entity changing the Colorado Constitution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I agree with you on most of this, but it doesn't bother you to have an out of state entity changing the Colorado Constitution?
    This is my only hang up about it, not the out of state thing, but why an amendment? If this was a local prop for us in Arapahoe County, I'd be all for it, the cash can go statewide for K-12 as planned. But why should people in Durango be voting on whether to allow gambling in a place that's about 1.5 miles from my house but hundreds of miles from theirs? When the other two places are ready to start building theirs let them have their own referendum.

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    For 68, it's kind of ballsy for an out of state company to ask for our constitution to be changed so they can open a casino - and nobody else will be allowed to. Gigantic balls.

    Plus billions have been invested in the 3 casino towns with the understanding that gaming won't be allowed elsewhere. Kinda f-ed up to go back on that.

    But it IS all for the children (again).

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    I told myself I wasn't going to bother voting this year......then I backslid and went ahead and registered. And I got to say, I am more then a little disappointed that this is all we are voting on this year.

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    It is an amendment because the constitution says where gambling is allowed. To add more places, an amendment needs to pass.

    And so what if private money was dumped in developing 3 towns. Life isn't fair, so why should those 3 towns and their casinos have a monopoly on gambling? They are the one footing the ads opposing this new site and 1 more sites included in the amendment.

    I would think if it were easier to get to aurora than the exiting places, more revenue and taxes would be raised.

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    I find it hard to believe that most people here don't want to know if they are eating GMO food?

    Just got to shake my head.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    It is an amendment because the constitution says where gambling is allowed. To add more places, an amendment needs to pass.

    And so what if private money was dumped in developing 3 towns. Life isn't fair, so why should those 3 towns and their casinos have a monopoly on gambling? They are the one footing the ads opposing this new site and 1 more sites included in the amendment.

    I would think if it were easier to get to aurora than the exiting places, more revenue and taxes would be raised.

    That's what they are gambling on.

    An amendment is virtually impossibly to remove from law books once voted on. An ballot measure is. It's one of the reasons 66? the school tax measure failed.

    You put a casino in the metro area the central city , blackhawk area would fold within 6 months. is one casino (that cannot be shut down) worth those many jobs, not to mention the areas secondary economy.

    I'm voting NO because there should be No new taxes with the implication it's for schools, especially as an amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryjcom View Post
    I find it hard to believe that most people here don't want to know if they are eating GMO food?

    Just got to shake my head.......
    Unless you grow every thing at home, you'll never know. That label / law is for items grown here. It has no bearing on food items imported. If you read labels when you shop, little is grown in the USA. Forget about fish.

    The amount of folks who don't look where an item is from, IMO, is staggering. I challenge everyone to buy fruits & veggies that are locally grown , from now till march. Figure 50-85% of said items are from central & south American areas. The last bell peppers i saw were tagged Holland. Those are approx. 1 week old once they hit the shelves, locally.

    Based upon your location and the 3-4 choices you / i have to shop. Take 2 carts as you browse. Cart 1 is what you normally buy. Cart 2 will be items from cart 1 Grown in the USA, NOT packages in, but grown here. Cart 2 is going to be sparse. If it's not USA grown we pass. For dries spices, it's from Mexico. If not your choices are China and or Indonesia.

    Even Whole Foods gets their products from overseas.

    SO....after a long winded post is why i'll vote NO on GMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I agree with you on most of this, but it doesn't bother you to have an out of state entity changing the Colorado Constitution?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
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    Yes - I don't care where the money is promised to go. I have no problem with people gambling, and would rather have people come to Denver instead of Vegas to piss away their cash. Don't care that it's a Rhode island company, as opposed to Nevada or other state companies currently operating in the small towns.

    Yes - all local government meeting should be open to the public.

    No - most of this is in conflict with current labeling laws.

    Unfortunatly our freggin state is fussed up....We are we teaching our kids it's ok to gambling and Smoke weed, because it's for the schools.... Imagine the Drinking and driving from this and the type of people these constitutional changes will attract. About time to say see you f---in later Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    You put a casino in the metro area the central city , blackhawk area would fold within 6 months. is one casino (that cannot be shut down) worth those many jobs, not to mention the areas secondary economy.
    Yes. Those cities are now protected by the constitution because it limits casinos to these three towns. This new amendment would allow 3 more locations, Aurora and I if I recall correctly, Pueblo and Durango. The protected casinos in those town would have to get creative to keep and lure new customers. It is also my understanding that gambling is already allowed at the proposed site via off site track betting. I see no problem allowing more.

    I would prefer that the amendment removed the restriction on where casinos could be operated. I hate government protected enterprises, which the casinos in Black Hawk, Central City and Cripple Creek now enjoy. Let the free market decide the fate of businesses and eventually those towns. They were dead for a reason before the casinos.

    As for the taxes, I will not pay them, only those who want to gamble. Hopefully plenty of tourists on their way to or from the ski slopes. Its not a forced tax, like a sales tax or property tax increase, its an elective tax on a non-essential entertainment activity.

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