9MM Over penatration.

[buckshotbarlow]

call your leo sheriff or police force and ask what they use. If you end up in court, the prosecutor can't say you were premeditating a bad guys murder. If they did, then ur defense is well, what do the leo's carry...ahhh brandx, weird, that's what I was using... I guess all our leo's are out to kill?

[Irving]

call your leo sheriff or police force and ask what they use. If you end up in court, the prosecutor can't say you were premeditating a bad guys murder. If they did, then ur defense is well, what do the leo's carry...ahhh brandx, weird, that's what I was using... I guess all our leo's are out to kill?

That might not go over so well depending on what's going on in the news at any given time.

[kidicarus13]

call your leo sheriff or police force and ask what they use. If you end up in court, the prosecutor can't say you were premeditating a bad guys murder.

One of the top 10 bits of advice given on an internet gun forum that has nothing to do with a real world jury trial but sounds logical.

[TennVol]

Several years ago my (idiot) brother was drinking and managed to fire a round from his Taurus 9MM inside his home (long story - don't ask). The round was a Federal Hydra Shok 124 gr. He was in his living room and the round went in and out of his rear projection flat screen (that still works), in and out of an interior wall, in and out of his stove, in and out of the exterior wall, in and out of a planter hanging outside, in and out of his wood fence - finally coming to rest in his neighbor's wood fence. I've got some nice photos of the results. Interestingly, the bullet never appeared to expand at all. Not a scientific study by any means, but I was very suprised at the lack of expansion and the amount of items the round penetrated.

[Sawin]

Several years ago my (idiot) brother was drinking and managed to fire a round from his Taurus 9MM inside his home (long story - don't ask). The round was a Federal Hydra Shok 124 gr. He was in his living room and the round went in and out of his rear projection flat screen (that still works), in and out of an interior wall, in and out of his stove, in and out of the exterior wall, in and out of a planter hanging outside, in and out of his wood fence - finally coming to rest in his neighbor's wood fence. I've got some nice photos of the results. Interestingly, the bullet never appeared to expand at all. Not a scientific study by any means, but I was very suprised at the lack of expansion and the amount of items the round penetrated.

Please post the pictures!

[TennVol]

Photos:

TV entrance:


TV exit:


Stove exit (stove was on other side of wall from TV)


Exterior wall exit:


Planter:


First wood fence:


I couldn't get a photo of the second fence, but it's right behind the first.

[Sawin]

Photos:

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I couldn't get a photo of the second fence, but it's right behind the first.

You wouldn't happen to have one of the actual bullet, assuming it was pulled out of the second fence, would you? I was hoping to see the deformation or lack thereof, of the projectile.

[O2HeN2]

Expensive ND

O2

[hurley842002]

Expensive ND

O2

I'd say it was relatively cheap compared to what it could have been.....

[TennVol]

I'd say it was relatively cheap compared to what it could have been.....

My brother was EXTREMELY lucky. The round exited the rear of his home and really didn't hit anything important. If his TV was set up towards the front of his home, things could have become very ugly very fast.

He extracted the bullet from the second fence the day it happened, but he didn't save it. I suppose he was worried about some police intervention.....