Ferguson Protesters

[Pancho Villa]

So, you've already found him guilty.

Sorry, I'm at work and looking at this thread between some work. I find it plausible as an alternative explanation to "he got up and decided to murder some random guy today." Maybe that's not it. Perhaps Brown ran at him and he killed in self defense.

I don't think that's going to be investigated thoroughly at all, though.

[Great-Kazoo]

Sorry, I'm at work and looking at this thread between some work. I find it plausible as an alternative explanation to "he got up and decided to murder some random guy today." Maybe that's not it. Perhaps Brown ran at him and he killed in self defense.

I don't think that's going to be investigated thoroughly at all, though.

With the feds anal probing anyone who will talk to them, i doubt it. I am curious why DOJ sent 40 investigators. Isn't that overkill and were there as many for Zimmerman? Or does DOJ have an agenda?

[RblDiver]

Also, can the "Saint Brown" and further nonsense stop? The guy didn't have to have a glowing halo around his head to not deserve to be shot.

The "Saint Brown" moniker is more of a jab at people who were saying things like "gentle giant" when clearly he was not such a thing (see the robbery that happened shortly before the shooting).

[Pancho Villa]

With the feds anal probing anyone who will talk to them, i doubt it. I am curious why DOJ sent 40 investigators. Isn't that overkill and were there as many for Zimmerman? Or does DOJ have an agenda?

Police misconduct is a difficult thing. I can certainly understand people who think that the DOJ is on a witchhunt to please their masters in DC, though.

In my ideal world everyone would step back, a special investigator without extensive family ties to MO police (the Missouri DA does, and has declined to bring charges against cops brought to his attention his whole career - democrat, btw, if that matters) or without a perceived political axe to grind against the police, to present to a grand jury as full a story as they can muster. That would quiet both sides I would hope. Fat chance that'll happen though.

[Aloha_Shooter]

There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.

That's almost as stupid as the "eyewitnesses" claiming that the cop was pulling Brown into the car window with one hand (as opposed to the alternative but more likely story that Brown was leaning into the car to beat the everlasting c--p out of the officer). While "small man syndrome" could certainly lead someone into stupidly provoking a confrontation with someone Brown's size, it's almost physically impossible to imagine someone of Wilson's size single-handedly pulling someone of Brown's size into a car window, particularly from the seated position.

BTW, someone beating me in the face and trying to take my weapon would probably make me pretty mad too. Having them charge at me would make me even madder, probably enough to take the shots.

While I leave open the possibility that Officer Wilson made a bad shoot, NOTHING in the storyline pushed forward by Brown's parents or the activists makes any sense. The storyline put out by Wilson's defenders thus far at least makes some credible sense.

[Pancho Villa]

I disagree. And that would be okay if there was something we could agree impartial going on in the context of the justice system. So here we are.

[speedysst]

I cant be sure but I cant imagine that Wilson had never been in a bad mood or angry or upset prior to this incident. Im pretty sure everyone has had bad days. This kind of homicidal anger issue would certainly have caught someone's attention long before this incident but Wilson had no prior complaints. To a point I agree about your idea of a special prosecutor that is COMPLETELY impartial and that includes politically.

There was a video with someone in the background probably saying that. We don't know if that was an eyewitness or if he was relaying speculation. If that guy would come forward at least to investigators that would certainly be useful.

I don't think Wilson just up and decided to murder someone that day. There was probably something that made him mad and he was pissed. People occasionally do things they would normally not do when mad.

[cstone]

People take sides if they care. Impartiality implies disinterest.

I really don't believe Missouri is any more corrupt than Illinois, New York, California, or Colorado for that matter.

The three (unprecedented number) autopsies have not yet been released and other than preliminary reports of marijuana, I am not aware of the results of the toxicology report for Brown.

Regardless of the results of the Grand Jury or any trial if the GJ indicts Wilson, there will always be people who disagree about what happened that afternoon between Brown and Wilson. Some of the people who disagree will cherry pick the information to support whatever agenda they happen to be pushing.

I don't live in Ferguson, MO, and have no agenda for or against anyone involved in the case. I will exercise patience and observe the outcome of the investigation and the resulting actions of the citizens and officials there and make up my own mind about who has credibility and who does not.

Till then

Be safe.

[BREATHER]

AS far as I am concerned "they" want to start a race war. They being the media, the government, people that will make money off it. Why else would any of this shit be going on. Its bullshit and everyone knows it. When this shit hits the fan it won't be pretty and no one will win.

I myself am very tired of all this shit.... Even with all you tough guys here and cop bashers. AGAIN why isn't whitey burning Salt Lake City because a cop killed an unarmed 20 year old white man just after this Ferguson crap.....

[Pancho Villa]

I cant be sure but I cant imagine that Wilson had never been in a bad mood or angry or upset prior to this incident. Im pretty sure everyone has had bad days. This kind of homicidal anger issue would certainly have caught someone's attention long before this incident but Wilson had no prior complaints. To a point I agree about your idea of a special prosecutor that is COMPLETELY impartial and that includes politically.

Then we have found agreement on the most important issue, to me, and that makes me satisfied.