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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    After you ask them if they know all the artificial flavorings in their StealBux coffee drink.
    They're not concerned about that because "Tracking down their supply chain would be too costly and time consuming". So they are ok with blindly eating whatever a commercial food business serves, just as long as those sugar beets they dont eat have GMO labeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    They're not concerned about that because "Tracking down their supply chain would be too costly and time consuming". So they are ok with blindly eating whatever a commercial food business serves, just as long as those sugar beets they dont eat have GMO labeling.
    Exactly..."dude, I eat/shop at {insert trendy chain here} because they support/donate to {insert liberal feel-good cause here}, and stuff...dude."
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    If independent food suppliers want to follow non-GMO practices and market their goods as such, then fine, do it.

    "Reasonable first step." Translation: We want to test the waters and get something on the books before we drop the hammer on everyone.
    There's a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can't get away.

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    From he 9 news truth test.

    Manufacturers would have to label GMO bread, but not GMO cheese. Soda, but not beer. Candy, but not gum.
    This inconsistency, opponents argue, will confuse consumers and make the GMO labels misleading.
    While there are labeling programs (eg: USDA organic, GMO free) available currently to help consumers choose products that do not contain GMO ingredients, these programs are voluntary.
    To that end, Prop 105 would be distinctly different than the "national standards" because the GMO labels would be mandatory in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th3w01f View Post
    From he 9 news truth test.
    the GMO labels would be mandatory

    Was anyone not in favor of prop 105 Surprised. Same tactics, incremental, for you health, The Children Etc. Of course not a single mention (that i have seen) informing the masses where Mr. Larry Cooper ACTIVIST, hails from originally. Outside of Arvada Resident. .mmmmmm Wonder if his residence will be pelted with GMO labelled eggs this halloween.
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    Why would restaurants need to track down anything? If labels are mandatory, then all the foods the restaurant but should come labeled right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    the GMO labels would be mandatory

    Was anyone not in favor of prop 105 Surprised. Same tactics, incremental, for you health, The Children Etc. Of course not a single mention (that i have seen) informing the masses where Mr. Larry Cooper ACTIVIST, hails from originally. Outside of Arvada Resident. .mmmmmm Wonder if his residence will be pelted with GMO labelled eggs this halloween.
    Nope, eggs are exempt.

    Also, its many exemptions create confusing loopholes that would exempt from labeling many thousands of products that do contain GMOs. Two-thirds of the foods we buy, such as meat, milk or eggs from animals that have been fed GMO feed, would be exempt from 105's labeling requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Why would restaurants need to track down anything? If labels are mandatory, then all the foods the restaurant but should come labeled right?
    "Approximately 2/3 of the foods and beverages we buy and consume would be exempt. Meat and dairy products would be exempt even if they come from animals raised on GMO feed and grain. All alcoholic beverages, food for immediate consumption served in restaurants and other institutions would also be exempt, even if they contain GMO ingredients"

    So they're exempting restaurants. If this didn't, they'd have to guarantee that NONE of their food contained GMO ingredients. Thus, forcing them to research who they get their food from and ensuring it doesn't have GMO ingredients. They're allowing restaurants to continue getting the cheapest GMO ingredients while avoiding the label that local farmers will be forced to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    If this didn't, they'd have to guarantee that NONE of their food contained GMO ingredients.
    How so? It's not illegal to sell products with GMO. If they don't know for sure. *May contain products from GMO.

    I agree with you, and agree that the restaurant argument is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    How so? It's not illegal to sell products with GMO. If they don't know for sure. *May contain products from GMO.
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    The general public only computes what's put in front of them. If restaurants had to label their menu, I guess we'd find out how many people really cared? It's easy to just avoid "GMO" labels. Its why people want it. They don't have to think and can feel like they are eating "right". What would they do if they went to their favorite restaurant and saw GMO next to their favorite dish because the sugar beats used fell under this law and got the GMO label? I'm betting they still order it and say "I've been eating it this long...".

    Society is a bandwagon of feel good.

    Why aren't we requiring fast food restaurants to label EXACTLY what's in their food? People freak about GMOs but line up at fast food without thinking twice.

    Im not saying I'm pro GMO but this just feels really lopsided to "organic". Why not require it for all food if its that much of an issue? But hey, we already force car manufacturers to meet MPG standards in the name of "green".
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