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    Zombie Slayer Aloha_Shooter's Avatar
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    Default El Paso County Issue 1A: Tax Retention for Parks

    So I have my ballot in hand and voted on nearly everything (efff you Udallooper) but I'm still undecided on 1A. In general, I'd vote for the county to just hold on to the $2M to maintain and improve our parks rather than go through all the labor and expense of sending everyone back a check for $8.41 but what really bugs me is the plan to acquire new properties. In other words, they can't be satisfied with keeping up and improving on what we have, they have to expand just like all the other bad government. In addition, bat-shit crazy John Hazlehurst is for 1A and all the pro-1A propaganda I read sounds like your typical Obamoron garbage: "it's only $8 and that only goes to property owners anyway", "TABOR is evil anyway", etc.

    Sooooo ... someone convince me to vote for this or I'll just vote "No" on principle and pure bull-headedness ...

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    Stick with principle and bull headedness. It's got you this far, yes.
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    I say, make em stay within their TABOR budget. If they get away with it this year, more will try it next year.
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    My vote goes to principle...even if it's bullheaded. I can't remember the last time I voted to raise taxes or to exempt a gov't entity from TABOR. The gov't at all levels has enough money...they need to spend it more wisely.
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    Vote principle.


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    Vote no and go get yourself lunch with the $8.41.

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    I have no grudge against the parks department, but dislike the way in which the funding is being manipulated. This is little different than the city turning off streetlights a few years back, or the universal claim that police&fire have to be the first departments cut in a budget crunch. NO


    I am principled/bullheaded enough to go to one of the nature centers on November 5th and drop more than $8.41 in the donation box if the ballot measure fails.

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    NO. Let the free market decide if we should have more/better parks! I frequent many of the parks around El Paso co. and I gladly participate in fundraisers for the park system. Public programs will never be as efficient and effective as private ones.
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    I'm voting no because I'm tired of them taking too much in taxes and then thinking they can just keep it if they pretend they're going to use it for things we all like, like parks.
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