Good comments, I just got another Yugo M70B1 instead. The compliance factor is something to consider on the PAP as you mention which is waht swayed me away. Nobody is pooping on my initial thoughts. In fact the comments expressed here are very valuable. Money doesnt grow on trees, and sometimes some well thought thoughts and observations from fellow members can be very valuable in evaluating a purchase. There also was not to much out on the net about the PAP as well. Since I already own a Yugo I decided to get another. I am paying about $150 more than I did 2 years ago for the Yugos M70B1 and the underfolder(Aims was selling them in 2006 for $419). I recall this January this year that the Yugos were going for a grand or more. Thankfully they can be had at $585-700 now still higher than the $419.