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    The US is just too PC to anything about this.

    Anyone see the speech the Canadian PM gave? I caught a bit of it and basically he was saying that the problem is that these people are coming to Canada with no intention of ever becoming Canadians. He said the country needs to do more to increase Canadian nationalism. Basically, he said people that live there better well intend to become Canadians. I thought it was pretty good. They also had no problem immediately coming out and saying it was a Muslim terrorist.

    I never thought I'd say this but Canadian leadership is doing a much better job with this than the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    So long as you don't call them the minority...
    There is no majority, minority, good Muslim, moderate Muslim, whatever.

    There are the Muslims who want to cut your head off... and there are the Muslims who want other Muslims to cut your head off.
    That's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvark View Post
    These attacks seem to be increasing, or media is just paying attention. Either way, I don't think they'll suddenly stop either and that being the case, time to arm up and start carrying. If unable to carry a firearm due to the work area in my case, or laws of the land in NY'ers case, what's left to do? Curiously, haven't heard a peep from the mosques or muslim leaders...
    Concealed is concealed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    How? Internment camps?
    That is a double-edged sword and we're lucky that after the Nisei were imprisoned during WWII other Americans weren't put in camps after WWII.

    I don't want internment camps, we'll have to deal with the bad actors as they expose themselves. How do we deal with an Imam that just won't shut up about jihad, we can't deport him unless his visa is expired, if he is a citizen we cannot prevent him from preaching.

    The key is education and promoting the freedoms laid out in The Constitution vs the enslavement of Islam. We need to take the schools back and start teaching The Constitution and why this country was formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I don't want internment camps, we'll have to deal with the bad actors as they expose themselves. How do we deal with an Imam that just won't shut up about jihad, we can't deport him unless his visa is expired, if he is a citizen we cannot prevent him from preaching.
    Preaching (or funding, engaging in, encouraging, or supporting in any way) jihad should be considered renouncing your citizenship and declaring war against the US. At that point you should be considered, at the very least, a target of opportunity.

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    The dude in Canada tried to leave the country to join the terrorists. They wouldn't let him on a plane.

    Rather than keeping known or wanabe Muslim terrorists on our soil, why not let them go? Heck, buy them a ticket. Fill a plane with em. Then when the jihad express is filled with wannabes and is over the Atlantic, perhaps it will end up like a Malaysian airlines flight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    That is a double-edged sword and we're lucky that after the Nisei were imprisoned during WWII other Americans weren't put in camps after WWII.

    I don't want internment camps, we'll have to deal with the bad actors as they expose themselves. How do we deal with an Imam that just won't shut up about jihad, we can't deport him unless his visa is expired, if he is a citizen we cannot prevent him from preaching.

    The key is education and promoting the freedoms laid out in The Constitution vs the enslavement of Islam. We need to take the schools back and start teaching The Constitution and why this country was formed.
    I believe he was being sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Preaching (or funding, engaging in, encouraging, or supporting in any way) jihad should be considered renouncing your citizenship and declaring war against the US. At that point you should be considered, at the very least, a target of opportunity.
    No, because then we could intern every Democrat for voting against the constitution.

    Whatever action applies to a single group will be applied to all groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    FIFY

    There's a crucial difference between "radical" and "fundamentalist"... they are not interchangeable.

    As far as I'm concerned, we can't kill these people fast enough.
    ... and the "radical" label is the correct one. I think the mass media has taken to calling them "fundamentalist" as part of an effort to subtly tarnish fundamentalist Christians. It's the same tactic where the Left Wing media calls all tyrannies "right wing" despite their Socialist or Communist constructs.

    So no, you didn't fix it for him, you made it wrong. These are radicals in every sense of the word. They want to overthrow existing governmental, social, and cultural institutions and replace them with their own. That's radical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    ... and the "radical" label is the correct one. I think the mass media has taken to calling them "fundamentalist" as part of an effort to subtly tarnish fundamentalist Christians. It's the same tactic where the Left Wing media calls all tyrannies "right wing" despite their Socialist or Communist constructs.

    So no, you didn't fix it for him, you made it wrong. These are radicals in every sense of the word. They want to overthrow existing governmental, social, and cultural institutions and replace them with their own. That's radical.
    This is no different that what the Obama administration is doing right now, overthrowing the constitution.

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