It's started...... NYPD attacked by jihadist...

[davsel]

Can't help myself...

I would be willing to bet that the verses you took from the Koran in post #37 are out of context as well. And an aside to your point about being denied entry into Heaven...read Revelations 20:15.

Yes, non-believers are going to Hell after they die on earth. That is entirely God's call.
Which is worse? I'll take MURDER for $1000, Alex. Choosing to murder someone for not believing the same as you is an Islamic teaching, not Christian. Christians will attempt to spread the Gospel, but if you choose not to believe in it, that is your free will, and ultimately between you and God. The Christian will go on about his business and you may go on about yours.


1- Book of Al-Maeda, verse 33 (5:33) -“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”

2- Book of Al-Anfal, verse 12 ( 8:12) - “I (Allah) will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”

3- Book of Muhammad, verse 4 (47:4) - “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”

4- Book of Al-Tawba, verse 123 (9:123) - “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”

5- Book of Al-Baqara, verse 191 (2:191) - “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.”

6- Book of Al-Baqara, verse 193 (2:193) - “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”

7- Book of Al-Tawba verse 29 (9:29) - "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Jizyah tax) by hand, being inferior.”

8- Book of Al-Anfal, verse 17 (8:17) - It is not ye who Slew them, but Allah; And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower. Allah is indeed the "Beneficent and the Merciful" and above all, Allah is knower of all things.

And one of my all time favorites:

[Ronin13]

Yes, non-believers are going to Hell after they die on earth. That is entirely God's call.
Which is worse? I'll take MURDER for $1000, Alex. Choosing to murder someone for not believing the same as you is an Islamic teaching, not Christian. Christians will attempt to spread the Gospel, but if you choose not to believe in it, that is your free will, and ultimately between you and God. The Christian will go on about his business and you may go on about yours.

Hammer meet nail!

[Danimal]

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[Ronin13]

Danimal- for the record, no one attacked you personally, just your opinion on this matter. Which again, if you watch Bridgette Gabriel's remarks, you'll soon find that the facts of Jihadism are undeniable.

[davsel]

This thread has devolved to personal attacks based on interpretation of theist philosophy so I am going to bow out.

Not the same as Theology.

Just remember that by design there is no correct answer to well defined questions of ethics or morals. They are solely justified by personal beliefs and relationship with oneself so every answer must be different.

That would be Humanism - does not pertain to Islam or Christianity.

By condemning a group of people based on their beliefs, you also condemn yourself. You make an enemy from someone you will never know because you have denied them the opportunity to change.

Not what I believe.

Protect yourself and our way of life by any means necessary, but remember the meek shall inherit the earth.

Can't help it.

[Danimal]

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[Dave_L]

Im going to convert all my firearms to muslim so no one has to be worried about them.

[Danimal]

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[Duman]

Wow. Last time I checked this thread, it was about knuckleheads targeting NYPD cops....

[davsel]