Educate me on lights

[MarkCO]

I primarily use the Streamlights on long guns. They have a bunch of different intensities and focuses.

The TLR-1 is 300 lumens and is pretty decent (bright) for indoors. I have one of these and a prior version that had a lower output. Outdoors, plan on maybe 40 yards for fast target ID. You can stretch to 100 if speed and best ID is not essential.

The TLR-1HP is 200 lumens, but the beam is focused and I can shoot out to 200 yards on most targets with speed and optimum ID capability. 300+ on targets that have light colors or are reflective is not a problem, but I would not rely on positive ID past that distance. It casts a pretty decent soft glow indoors, but that beam, across room distances is about a foot. This is what I use on my AR when I shoot the night matches, but I have to be able to see a target out to 200 yards right now. The focused beam allows you to look off to the side indoors. I keep the beam at the intersection of the ground/floor and walls if I use it indoors.

The TLR-HL is 600 lumens. It is bright. It is great on a pistol or shotgun outdoors, and a lot of guys use them. For rifle, it does not have enough beam focus out past about 60 yards or so, partly becasue you are dumping so much light up close. Indoors, it is too bright for me.

Not a fan of the "s" versions, and I ended up with one I keep meaning to sell off. I like the toggle they use, and for me it is one of the best. When I shoot and work the night matches, it seems that the people who run the TLR-1 units have less issues than most of the other brands. You can pretty much bet money on the fact that the guys that place at the top of these matches are running Streamlight, Surefire and Crimson Trace.

I have an Inforce, and it is okay, just not enough lumens for an AR and the pressure switch needs some firm pressure.

[YammyMonkey]

I built a couple guns with the Unity Tactical Fusion Warrior front sight/VTAC base/ring light mount with a Surefire Fury and have to say that is the slickest setup that I've come across yet. It gets the light up nice & high, around 1:00/11:00 depending on the side, and it weighs less than half of what a DD front sight/Haley Thorntail mount does. For reference, the Unity setup on a Troy Alpha rail clocks in at 1.75oz and the DD/Haley combo weighs in at 4.10oz on my digital kitchen scale. On top of that, the Thorntail mount holds the light farther out to the side & lower than the Unity mount because you have to run it on a side rail in order to clear a front sight unless you want to mount the front sight behind the light mount & give up some sight radius.

I've used the TLR @ 12:00 and various other setups over the years, but the Unity/Fury combo is the best one I've seen yet. The setup above is about $160 plus whatever the light is going for these days, which is more than a TLR/DD front sight combo but, for me, it works the most bestest.

I don't have an issue with the 500+ lumen lights indoors, even in some of the small apartments that I've had the pleasure of searching at night. In those cases, it was with a 500 lumen SF X300U on my pistol or the 750 lumen SF Lawman handheld. Your eyes may vary.

[Joe_K]

Whatever light you choose remember the ideal locations are 12' o clock or 6' I clock as far forward as possible to cut down on barrel shadow. Also try to keep a bit of clearance from your muzzle so you don't have to breakout the toothpaste and Q-Tips for the lens every range trip.

[cofi]

I using a p2x fury(1000 lumen) in a rousch slm1 mount

probably as good as it gets for rifle light/mount/site

[Roger Ronas]

Any chance you have links to those items? I can only find fury in 500 lumens and can;t find the mount at all.
Thanks
Roger

I using a p2x fury(1000 lumen) in a rousch slm1 mount

probably as good as it gets for rifle light/mount/site

[cofi]

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SureF...-eag-click.htm


http://roschworks.com/site/9c4055b76...FSLM1.php#2937

[cofi]

Roger if you want to see them in person I work in the springs I can bring the rifle with me

[Roger Ronas]

Thanks for the links. The second one is dead but I'll search more.
Roger

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SureF...-eag-click.htm


http://roschworks.com/site/9c4055b76...FSLM1.php#2937

[Roger Ronas]

Thanks for the offer, but I can do my decision by just reading up on the products.

Roger

Roger if you want to see them in person I work in the springs I can bring the rifle with me

[cofi]

Thanks for the links. The second one is dead but I'll search more.
Roger

http://roschworks.com

sorry posting from my ipotato