Serious Question...how can you possibly NOT be a libertarian?

[Justin]

Yeah...that's it. Exactly. You're absolutely right. So there's no need for you and I to continue. Pick your fight with someone else.

I'm sorry, Bailey. I didn't mean to huwt youw feewings.

:-(

[Justin]

Feelers just got hurt. IBTL

It's not so much an issue of feelings as one of basic human nature.

Why would libertarians ally with republicans when republicans offer them no incentive other than "we're not as bad as the other guy!"

When it comes to libertarians, the republican party is all stick, no carrot.

I mean, election after election, republicans bend over backwards to cater to social conservatives, a group who's political power has been waning for over a decade.

Then they lose the election, and point the finger at libertarian voters who have exactly zero positive reasons to change their vote, and who are, so far as I can tell, the only constituency that republicans think they can win over by constantly and publicly bad mouthing.

[Jer]

Because they're against the other party that wants to take away more of their rights?

loaded question, you're not going to accept any answer- but I'm going with the lesser of 2 evils argument.

Other than firearms... are they? The stuff the Republicans have wanted to take away is kind of a big deal too and just the mention is what makes it so easy for the common citizen to pull the lever for the Democrat candidate. It's always impressive how a D or a R supporter doesn't see their own party affiliation as being an equal part of the problem. Each election that goes by I'm less inclined to vote FOR 2A rights and more inclined to vote for the right man for the job, regardless of who that is or what party he affiliates with. It just so happens that the most sane and sincere people don't have a D or R next to their name anymore. That's more a problem of the D & the R than the independents.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm sorry, Bailey. I didn't mean to huwt youw feewings.

If you were someone whose opinion I valued and whom I respected, you might be capable of hurting my feelings. You're neither of those so feel free to continue being yourself. That's more insulting than anything I could possibly say.

[Bailey Guns]

My question is why in God's name would libertarians want to support republican candidates when a large sector of their supporters do nothing but name call and insult libertarians for being "stupid", "lazy", "utopian" and "delusional"?

The only people that have done any name-calling in this thread are supporting the L side of the argument.

[Justin]

If you were someone whose opinion I valued and whom I respected, you might be capable of hurting my feelings. You're neither of those so feel free to continue being yourself. That's more insulting than anything I could possibly say.

The finger-wagging school marm act doesn't suit you.

[Jer]

The bottom line is this (two party system that gets rewarded for bad behavior so long as it's not worse than their competitor) is yet another reason why our once-great nation is doomed since we can't escape from the very oversight that's sinking it no matter how much we wish we could. Some of us are at least making an effort to enact change and while it may only be 1% think of how many of our society actually make us the world power and the free nation that it is. I think you'll find that 1% of any segment can be capable of great things. But if that 1% isn't willing to make some sacrifice it's just business as usual as we edge towards the cliff. I generally rest well at night knowing that I voted for the right person for the job. This is the one election where I held my nose in an attempt to slow the march towards the cliff and now not only did the bigger scum bag win anyway but I didn't use my vote to vote for the best person for the job of those available to me and that's something I have to live with; compromising my own ideals.

[PugnacAutMortem]

The only people that have done any name-calling in this thread are supporting the L side of the argument.

Actually if you just scroll up to post #105 you will find that you were in fact the one that called libertarians delusional.

[Bailey Guns]

Actually, if you'll scroll up to post #105 I was saying it was a possible scenario that libertarians were delusional in response to another poster saying republicans were delusional.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Actually, if you'll scroll up to post #105 I was saying it was a possible scenario that libertarians were delusional in response to another poster saying republicans were delusional.

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Soooooo...because you said it was a possible scenario it ceases to be name calling? Is that what you are trying to say?