Serious Question...how can you possibly NOT be a libertarian?

[tim-adams]

I am a fiscally conservative with more libertarian social policies... but firm belief in the constitution and the bill of rights as our founding, and guiding document.. (throw those out and I am loading firearms)

[Dave_L]

Red or blue does matter on some issues. Generally, republicans protect the 2A rights. At least by protecting that, we know that we'll always have plan B if they go too crazy (more so than they already have). Democrats want to take that away so by the time we reach their destination, we won't have options.

So we may end up at the same destination but at least with the red, we have a roadside policy to help when we break down.

[Artema]

Red or blue does matter on some issues. Generally, republicans protect the 2A rights. At least by protecting that, we know that we'll always have plan B if they go too crazy (more so than they already have). Democrats want to take that away so by the time we reach their destination, we won't have options.

So we may end up at the same destination but at least with the red, we have a roadside policy to help when we break down.

I've seen many "great" Republicans attack 2A, so I'd believe it if they had a better track record.

[Dave_L]

I've seen many "great" Republicans attack 2A, so I'd believe it if they had a better track record.

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

[tim-adams]

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

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yeah afraid voting L is just splitting the R vote and guaranteeing you something you don't want

[Artema]

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

Again, libertarian leanings have nothing to do with parties. You can be left, you can be right, but you don't have to be authoritarian and evil like BOTH the top two parties. You can have both sides consider allowing their citizens to be ruled by the constitution and subject them to a thing called Freedom, while still being conservative and liberal.

[Great-Kazoo]

Easy.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Easy.

Thanks for the well thought out, thoroughly explained response to my question. I really appreciate what you've added to this discussion, and I think we will all be better people going forward if we can keep your wisdom and insight close to our minds and our hearts.

[hurley842002]

Thanks for the well thought out, thoroughly explained response to my question. I really appreciate what you've added to this discussion, and I think we will all be better people going forward if we can keep your wisdom and insight close to our minds and our hearts.

You question why many of us are bitching about the election, yet you have one of the most disgruntled and hateful attitudes towards people here. Seriously, what IS your problem?

[Justin]

yeah afraid voting L is just splitting the R vote and guaranteeing you something you don't want

This statement assumes that the libertarian you're talking with holds the same views you do, and to the same level of belief.

That's simply not the case.