Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
I honestly don't believe such a thing is really possible... Gipper did put it best: "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program." - Ronald Reagan.

And to all these folks who continue voting for Libertarian candidates thinking it will somehow one day change... How's that been working out for you? Again, Gary Johnson .9% of the vote, Hess 1.8% of the vote. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting different results? When one way doesn't work, it's probably time to step back, reassess your tactics, come up with a new plan and give that a shot. I think throwing a candidate on the ballot, and then saying "You republicans aren't winning us over by insulting us," isn't working. I don't think you'd ever allow the republicans to win you over. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Tough, both sides of already thrown rocks. The Libertarians are claiming that the republicans are calling them lazy and delusional. Are you guys so free from fault? I think it was the libertarians that continue to spout "The lesser of 2 evils is still evil." So when someone calls someone else evil, getting called lazy and delusional in return somehow makes them the ones who are at fault? I hear criticism on both sides. But one thing I don't hear from the libertarians (don't get me wrong, who I support) is any attempt to try new tactics or even try to work with the republican party to make things better.

And what will the libertarians accomplish once they do finally get someone elected? You think the Rs and the Ds are just going to welcome them into the fold with open arms and listen to what they have to say? I doubt we'll see a Libertarian president or governor anytime in my lifetime, but I don't doubt they'll make it into congress... at which point they'll be 1 vs 99 who don't see things the same way in the senate, and 1 vs 434 in the house. What exactly will they accomplish? They'll be that one voice of dissent, silenced by the rest.
The things you say, to me and many others, are just horrible realizations of how much the current authoritarian parties are, and how much they need to go if this is really their viewpoint. This is disgusting.