Serious Question...how can you possibly NOT be a libertarian?

[tim-adams]

the governments primary job is to increase the tax's/power of the government...

sorry to say red and blue mater not, only green $$$$$

[Artema]

Basically, their roads lead to the same place- but the scenery is different along the way...

Well said!

[Dave_L]

Red or blue does matter on some issues. Generally, republicans protect the 2A rights. At least by protecting that, we know that we'll always have plan B if they go too crazy (more so than they already have). Democrats want to take that away so by the time we reach their destination, we won't have options.

So we may end up at the same destination but at least with the red, we have a roadside policy to help when we break down.

[Artema]

Red or blue does matter on some issues. Generally, republicans protect the 2A rights. At least by protecting that, we know that we'll always have plan B if they go too crazy (more so than they already have). Democrats want to take that away so by the time we reach their destination, we won't have options.

So we may end up at the same destination but at least with the red, we have a roadside policy to help when we break down.

I've seen many "great" Republicans attack 2A, so I'd believe it if they had a better track record.

[Great-Kazoo]

Easy.

[Dave_L]

I've seen many "great" Republicans attack 2A, so I'd believe it if they had a better track record.

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

[tim-adams]

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

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yeah afraid voting L is just splitting the R vote and guaranteeing you something you don't want

[Justin]

yeah afraid voting L is just splitting the R vote and guaranteeing you something you don't want

This statement assumes that the libertarian you're talking with holds the same views you do, and to the same level of belief.

That's simply not the case.

[Artema]

And now you see the democrat track record personally here in CO. A few cycles of 3rd party votes from "R"s and a major coming together of democrats has put us where we are today. I appreciate what libertarians are trying to do but, for me, it's more important to suppress the progressive agenda before trying to dismantle the 2 party system.

Again, libertarian leanings have nothing to do with parties. You can be left, you can be right, but you don't have to be authoritarian and evil like BOTH the top two parties. You can have both sides consider allowing their citizens to be ruled by the constitution and subject them to a thing called Freedom, while still being conservative and liberal.

[SamuraiCO]

For libertarians to have any hold it will take some large money people to put in the same framework the Dems and Repubs have in every state. Maybe the Facebook/Twitter/Google/Cisco/Apple/Microsoft will wise up with supporting Dems who just see them as a cash cow and reject their current masters. Until then I vote Rep and support the most conservative member in our state and nationally. It will take some time to move the R's to a more conservative platform.

Most of our issues will become moot if our fiscal house is not taken care of. At least we will be prepared when the collapse comes.