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    Default Stupid ar pistol legal question....

    I just built an ar pistol in 556 with a 7.5 inch barrel. Now I know if you have a pistol upper you have to have a pistol lower if you have rifle lowers or its a constructive possession issue. Now that I have multiple complete ar rifles and one ar pistol, can I have multiple pistol length uppers for the one pistol lower?


    Stupid question, but covering my bases, as I want a 300blk shorty upper to switch back and forth on the one pistol lower.

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    1 pistol lower, and 1 pistol upper = OK
    1 pistol lower and multiple pistol uppers = OK
    0 pistol lowers and any number of pistol uppers = bad mojo

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    That's what I thought, thanks for answering my stupid question.

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    Same goes with SBRs:
    1 SBR lower, and 1 or many short uppers = OK
    (as long as your form 1 barrel length covers the smallest barrel length on hand)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger353 View Post
    Same goes with SBRs:
    1 SBR lower, and 1 or many short uppers = OK
    (as long as your form 1 barrel length covers the smallest barrel length on hand)
    I'm going to try out the sig brace for now, but I have had the nfa bug nipping a bit in the desire to add an ar15 sbr to the AK sbr in my trust. So that helps with my possible future stupid questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balyon885 View Post
    I'm going to try out the sig brace for now, but I have had the nfa bug nipping a bit in the desire to add an ar15 sbr to the AK sbr in my trust. So that helps with my possible future stupid questions.

    When you price a Sig brace, buffer tube, spring & buffer new. For a few dollars more i'd Form 1 everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    When you price a Sig brace, buffer tube, spring & buffer new. For a few dollars more i'd Form 1 everything.
    How do you figure? The brace is only about $40 more than something like a B5 sopmod or other similiar stocks. You'd still have to buy all the other parts so that is a wash. Then we have to tack on the $200 for a stamp and whatever you paid to setup a trust if you have an Anti-2A Commie for a CLEO in your county. Then there's the cost of 922r compliance if you are SBRing a foreign made weapon which can be significant.

    The brace frees you from all that. No more NFA entanglements. No more Form 1s. No more trusts/CLEO signoff. No more 922r compliance requirements. No more having to ask Federal permission to take it across state lines, etc. You can even conceal carry it in back pack if you like and not run afoul of hunting regs. It may be ugly but it's 100% functional and gives us a way around the unconstitutional NFA and its arbitrary restrictions on something as stupid as barrel length. Given a choice I'd rather give my money to Sig or Century Arms instead of feeding the ATF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    How do you figure? The brace is only about $40 more than something like a B5 sopmod or other similiar stocks. You'd still have to buy all the other parts so that is a wash. Then we have to tack on the $200 for a stamp and whatever you paid to setup a trust if you have an Anti-2A Commie for a CLEO in your county. Then there's the cost of 922r compliance if you are SBRing a foreign made weapon which can be significant.

    The brace frees you from all that. No more NFA entanglements. No more Form 1s. No more trusts/CLEO signoff. No more 922r compliance requirements. No more having to ask Federal permission to take it across state lines, etc. You can even conceal carry it in back pack if you like and not run afoul of hunting regs. It may be ugly but it's 100% functional and gives us a way around the unconstitutional NFA and its arbitrary restrictions on something as stupid as barrel length. Given a choice I'd rather give my money to Sig or Century Arms instead of feeding the ATF.
    All solid points. I just got my sig brace. FANTASTIC. Its about as long as a regular CAR stock out one click. Close enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    How do you figure? The brace is only about $40 more than something like a B5 sopmod or other similiar stocks. You'd still have to buy all the other parts so that is a wash. Then we have to tack on the $200 for a stamp and whatever you paid to setup a trust if you have an Anti-2A Commie for a CLEO in your county. Then there's the cost of 922r compliance if you are SBRing a foreign made weapon which can be significant.

    The brace frees you from all that. No more NFA entanglements. No more Form 1s. No more trusts/CLEO signoff. No more 922r compliance requirements. No more having to ask Federal permission to take it across state lines, etc. You can even conceal carry it in back pack if you like and not run afoul of hunting regs. It may be ugly but it's 100% functional and gives us a way around the unconstitutional NFA and its arbitrary restrictions on something as stupid as barrel length. Given a choice I'd rather give my money to Sig or Century Arms instead of feeding the ATF.
    Until you get your nuts crushed in a vise from some ATF asshat that was unknowingly hanging around when you shouldered it.

    Never gonna happen right? Do you want to be the test case?

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    True Dat ^

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