One of two shows I still watch. After it ends, I might have to bow out of the TV game.Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
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One of two shows I still watch. After it ends, I might have to bow out of the TV game.
Just give a few years girls. You will soon hit what I call the "salmon swim age." Once you go up stream there is no going back.
I can't believe you guys. How many of you watched that video?, vs just assumed it was some feminazi that started screeching about harassment when someone gave her a friendly 'hi'? Did you deliberately ignore the skeevy pimp tone that was used? Did you simply not notice the creepy guy that walked next to her for over four minutes, setting his pace with hers? Did you not see her reaction?
Sure, some of the 'greetings' are harder to pin down. It may be that they greet a number of strangers (to include males) like that. But the majority of them aren't the, "You look great!" variety. They hold the implicit tone of "Hey baby, Wanna f-?" There's a very slippery slope with that sort of thing, and the higher the number, the more a feeling of menace builds up. You can see the stress in her face by the end of the video. In the beginning, she was simply walking and trying to ignore it. You can do that for a while, but when it starts to build up, it builds up fast and your instincts tell you to get the hell out of there.
Oh, but then again, we should look at your enlightened comments, shall we? After all, gun advocates suggest women should carry concealed to prevent rape. Right? Because rapists broadcast their intent. They menace. They skirt the line, and behave JUST barely within the parameters of proper etiquette...such as walking just within a person's space, deliberately making them nervous as a power play.
"Give 'em what they want, and don't talk with them?" So, it's either business or harassment? You think we welcome such stuff as a compliment?
She's wearing skin tight clothes, eh? The next time you go out in public, see how many women her age are wearing loose or baggy clothes. Here's a hint: just like in the 70's, when all you could find in the stores were bell-bottom jeans, skinny jeans are about the only thing available. The implication of "She's wearing skin tight clothes," is a) that women should not wear jeans, unless they are way too big and don't fit them at all, and b) since the clothes they are wearing happen to touch their bodies, they're just asking for it if they're raped, right? You know what? Maybe women should wear burkhas, so they don't tempt men. because that's clearly what she's doing, wearing those jeans and that tshirt and walking down the street like that.
She's got a FAT ass? I'm sure this was posted by the Adonis of the community, who has no beer gut, flat ass, big thighs, flabby arms, double chin, scraggy beard or anything else. I come from the fat ass crowd, so I feel more than qualified to state that it's damn hard to find clothes that fit well when you've got a lot of junk in the trunk. So she's got a curvy figure. So what? Does that mean that because she fits into a certain figure type, that she's inviting attention like that? Do you see her stopping and striking poses, encouraging men to think she'd like to do the nasty with them?
She is NOT dressed like the Kardashians. She is not posing. She is not some trumped-up media invention, trying to drag in ratings for a 'reality show.' If you doubt tis, Google "Kardashian" and look at the image, and then look at this video again.
For those of you who think that "It took her ten hours to come up with that," do remember she has not included the catcalls, whistles, et. To make it a bit more relatable, let's replace it with something else. Instead of catcalls and harassment, let's say it's you walking down the streets of New York, and instead of harassment, let's replace them with punches. Better yet, since the harassment leaves no physical marks, how about we say that various strangers simply take a swing at you. They don't actually HIT you. But they are a threat. Even if only 1% of all the people you encounter pull this, after ten hours, it's still a lot more people than you expect.
If you're not one of the tl:dr crowd because it flies against your good-ol-boy attitudes, I'd like you to imagine your wife, your mother, your grandmother, your daughter, or any other female that you love in place of this woman walking down the street. This woman is someone's daughter. She could be someone's wife. She could be someone's mother.
When I was five years old, I walked with my Mom to the convenience store, a block and a half away. We had just come out of the alley from our home and were on the street when a guy came up to my Mom, muttered something to her and walked for a few steps right next to her. She had such a tight grip on my hand that I started to yell, and he quickly walked away. Mom grabbed me up and ran to the store. She was 22 at the time, and I remember that day like it was yesterday, because she was terrified.
Would your attitudes change if she had a child with her? How about if she had her elderly mother with her?
Why are these asshole remarks okay because she's trying to show the world what most of us women already know?
I was really wrong about you guys. I thought women were welcome here.
"There is nothing in the world so permanent as a temporary emergency." - Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
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I can't believe you guys.
"There are no finger prints under water."
^What are you trying to say?
Micheal HoffHard times make strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
I showed the video to my wife and asked her what she thought. Her reply was to stay away from this thread, no winners to be had.
You have a very smart wife.
Micheal HoffHard times make strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
Just lucky I didn't pop off a couple smart azz posts before I ask her input.
Get 'em Grey.
PS - I have two daughters and while I want them to grow up thick skinned and learn not to let it ruin their day if/when they get disrespected I know I will also have a hard time keeping it cool if some random stranger disrespects them on the street in front of me.
Last edited by hollohas; 10-29-2014 at 13:38.
Heck, I am scared to tell any woman how she looks, or ask her a question, unless necessary. You never know what you are going to get.
Seriously, I certainly see how some of the people in the video would have made her nervous and several of them may in fact meet the legal definition of harassment. But some of them seemed entirely benign as well.
Maybe I should have just taken Kevin's wife's advice.
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