I've had it with these stupid f'n red turn arrows

[Irving]

So is the idea that they just relocate the left turns to side streets that theoretically have less traffic than the main thoroughfare?

[MarkCO]

You can make lefts in neighborhoods and such, but not on main streets. Like Wadsworth, Kipling, Alameda, Bowles, etc. would all be no left turn streets. The traffic lights at the cross of main intersections let 40% more traffic flow through since they don't have everyone sitting for the turns. The U-turns are mid-block as well, not actually at intersections. On less used feeder streets, they do use the traffic circles.

It has probably even saved tourists lives by not making them late in the "less inviting" parts of town.

[MarkCO]

Hmm, what do you know, they even have a web-page explaining it:

http://www.michiganhighways.org/inde...igan_left.html

I did not realize they were a "Michigan" thing since Detroit Metro is the only MI destination I have ever been to.

[Irving]

Interesting concept.

[Superorb]

An excellent and timely rant! I agree fully. What's even worse I when you get three cars of slack-jawed mouth-breathers in front of you on a green left-turn arrow, and by the time it registers with them to TURN ALREADY, the light goes yellow after the first car. My vocabulary gets a real workout, thanks to those lights.

I've got 4 horns on my car. I give a courtesy 2 seconds. You don't move and you get blasted until you do.

[TFOGGER]

When I lived in Omaha, there were a number of "go right to turn left" intersections. A bit confusing, but actually quite practical once you get used to them.

[Dave_L]

If the government won't protect us from ourselves, who will?

[spqrzilla]

Traffic engineers always annoy me. So much of what they "fix" is busy work. Like the moronic blinking yellow arrows that Aurora's retarded traffic department adopted for no reason.

[stoner01]

Traffic engineers always annoy me. So much of what they "fix" is busy work. Like the moronic blinking yellow arrows that Aurora's retarded traffic department adopted for no reason.

They out those fuckers in everywhere. And why? Aurora finds stoopid ways to use its funds. Like all the "all American city" signs that could have gotten APD it's own bomb squad instead.

[thvigil11]

I can't complain anymore. I drive 55 miles one way to work and see exactly 0 stoplights if I take a certain route. At most if I take the first exit into Raton I see 3.